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Input latency minimum is 30ms. How to get lower latency (below 10ms)

New Here ,
Jun 27, 2020 Jun 27, 2020

Hi,
I want to use Audition (13.0.7.38) for live streaming. 

 

Audio input is an XLR mic (Samson Q2U) connected to a Focusrite Scarlett Solo (which connects as an audio interface via USB).

Disabling the multitrack

-Enable input monitoring

-Enable smart monitoring

options does not change the minimum latency value.

Input device is seen as MME by Audition. 

 

So, relevant PC specs are:

Ryzen 7, 2700X

32GB RAM

AMD 5700XT

Motherboard is MSI X470 Gaming ... something, with Realtek - codec ALC892, driver version 6.0.1.8619 (from their website)

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Community Expert ,
Jun 27, 2020 Jun 27, 2020

Ultimately latency is determined by the hardware in your computer, and you can't eliminate it. It's caused by the finite length of time that it takes to convert your analog speech to digital, process it through the operating system, and then output it again. In order for the signal not to break up during this process, Audition uses a buffer which you can set to be slightly greater than the system latency value, but that's it - you can go no lower than that - and even with a top-notch system you won't get this below quite a few milliseconds. On your machine, it's going to be a lot worse because you're using an MME driver, but you don't have a choice about this; Focusrite don't appear to have an ASIO driver for the Scarlett Solo. If you had a sound device with an ASIO driver, then this would bypass most of the operating system, which is probably the biggest cause of additional latency there is in your system. So I'm afraid that the latency value is inevitably going to be higher than you'd like, but unfortunately there's no fix for this - it's down to the Laws of Physics.

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New Here ,
Jun 27, 2020 Jun 27, 2020

Then I should have investigated this BEFORE buying the Scarlett. 
Well, time for a unusually fast upgrade. 

So I should look for an audio interface that supports/has an ASIO type driver and that latency will be closer to the magical 10ms?

Thanks for the input so far.

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Community Expert ,
Jun 28, 2020 Jun 28, 2020

You need to look at something like an Audient iD4 - this qualifies; there's an ASIO driver included in the installation package. If you look at the manual for it (available online) it goes into this whole latency issue quite a bit.

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New Here ,
Jun 29, 2020 Jun 29, 2020

So, the Scarlett Solo does have an ASIO controller which I have now installed and using in Audition. My headphones are now connected to the Scarlet Solo (instead of the PC) and the PC out is going to the solo.

BUT, the latency hasn't changed.

I am guessing that the fact that I'm routing the PC to the Solo is a No-No, defeating the purpose of the whole ASIO advantage, since Windows is the one doing the routing.

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New Here ,
Jun 29, 2020 Jun 29, 2020

Hi,

So, I'm an idiot.

Not once did I think about all the effects I'm adding for the track, even though after finding the below video, I remember reading about the exact same thing.

The WORST offender is Speech Volume Leveler.
An example can be seen here: 

https://youtu.be/IvXoB_jyJVw?t=351

 

So, yeah.

Now I'm left wondering how do radio hosts sound so good if they can't add effect in real time.

 

Do all of them have analog gear (equilizer, compressor etc.)?

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Community Expert ,
Jun 29, 2020 Jun 29, 2020
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Hardware has always been the way it's been done in the past, yes - and in some professional environments it still is, because it sounds better. There are some software tools you can get hold of pretty cheaply that are dedicated to the task - like Stereo Tool and there are probably others as well. As far as hardware options go, I think that there are very few affordable boxes on the market that are designed to do the job. There's the DBX 286s, and Behringer do one called VX2496 but all the rest appear to have telephone numbers instead of price tags.

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