Markers in Multitrack / using Audition to arrange un-syncd music

[johnh76715022]

I did read some of the forum and I think I know the answer here.  I want to post what I'm doing anyway, in case anybody is doing something similar and has a better idea.

I record separate audio clips (electronic instruments) clocked to a midi master as I record them, but recorded separately, in multitrack mode. They are loosely live performed, not following an overall scheme of measures / changes, but they are same tempo.  I want to then arrange these in Multitrack. 

I put some preliminary markers at obvious points in the individual files, but as I arrange I get a better idea which point in time is measure 1 and where changes would go.  Maybe I pick percussion to start with and move other track parts around, and start to count measures out to see where changes are/should be, relative to points in time.  I count over 16 or 32 beats add a marker, again and again.

THEN.. at around measure 64, in one of the tracks I need to do a fancy edit.  So I say edit source file, but the time markers I've added in Multi are gone and it isn't clear where my edit needs to be. 

This might be a dumb workflow!  but I find Audition editing more familiar than my DAW and I was a big fan of Cool Edit Pro.   

So confirm -> markers added in Multi can NOT be referenced while editing one of the separate tracks?

and Also is anybody using Audition like this ?

Thanks for any feedback!

[SteveG_AudioMasters_ · Accepted solution]

johnh76715022  wrote

So confirm -> markers added in Multi can NOT be referenced while editing one of the separate tracks?

Multitrack markers only apply to points on the session timeline and have no relationship with track markers at all. Track markers show up as vertical dotted lines on the individual files, and will move with the files when you re-position them. Session markers will only move if you add or remove time from the session itself.

[ryclark]

If I were you I would go through the individual files counting beats and adding suitable markers in the Waveform view of each track. These markers will then show up on the clips in the Multitrack view so that you can line them up for sync there. As you are recording these clips from MIDI synced sources you should also be able to apply the correct BPM to Audition's Timeline Bars and Beats time display to help align the audio.

[johnh76715022]

That would be ideal, but sometimes I am counting backward in track 1, from an event in track 2, and that event happened at some random point in time which is not at even beat counts from the start of either source file.  Marker in at the point of change in Track 2, but cant find that time in Track 1 when i go to edit a fill in. 

You could count measures from start, adding markers and then realize you are interested in x number of beats starting from some point in time, not the beginning.  Maybe your important track didnt start getting good until a minute or so in, and you want to base other tracks timing around that. 

I think the answer is I accept doing any editing i need to do within the Multitrack screen, paste my fill as a separate track maybe.

It just gets cluttered and zooming behavior is annoying, zooming in (horizontally) extremely far and back out (dozen button clicks in and a dozen more back out) is worse in Multi than in single file mode.  In single file view i use mouse scroll and its fast.  In multi view the mouse scroll expands all the tracks vertically - if youre hovered over the track headers - but it scrolls up and down if youre hovered over the clips.  So im constantly messing with the view in Multi and working on one file in there drives me nuts. 

Thanks for both replies!

[ryclark]

Use Control + Scroll Wheel to Zoom horizontally on a Track in the Multitrack view. And also remember that in the latest versions of Audition you now have up to 5 customisable Zoom to Time presets which can be assigned to keyboard shortcuts (see the Alarm Clock icon in the Zoom panel).

[johnh76715022]

Crtl+scroll for horizontal scrolling is great.  Thanks, I thought I tried all the combos.

For my other dilemma, I recorded a metronome-like beat and put labeled markers every 16 measures, and twice as often in the 4th of each group of 4. 

and making sure I use time 0 for the start of that and all others. 

I can build other tracks up against that ruler track, rather than free-form out in time.. and probably use absolute time mm:ss to locate an edit point later onthat way, if i need to. 

thanks again for helpful replies