PUNCH AND ROLL????

Question

I know this question has been asked myriad times, but it would be NICE if Adobe added this feature to the next update. While it may not seem important for general VO work, it is extremely important to those of us (Audiobook narrators, which is a booming industry) to have in the studio. PnR allows the narrator to narrate smoothly, with minimal interruption after setting the start point. I know the hybrid of PnR exists in the multitrack view, but it is not the same. Especially when you need to "re-PnR" to get the take just right.

This is not "loop-recording" for multiple takes, or just the simple "punch-in" recording to correct mistakes and the recording stops at a predetermined location. Punch and Roll, is the combination of "Punching in" at a predetermined location (with a pre-roll amount the operator can set from 2 seconds to 20 seconds), and having Audition continue to record until the "Stop" button is keyed. You are also able to "loop record" but the recording does not "loop back" at the end. Loop recording continues to record until the "Stop" button is again keyed, however, if a mistake is made during the initial "Punch in", or subsequent "Loop recording" the operator is able to hit the "loop" button, the recording stops, goes back to where the original "Pre-roll" began, starts playing, and again "Punches in" at the same location as previously recorded, and continues to record until the "Stop" button is keyed. (There are a host of other things that happen, but a look at the 3rd party extension created by Travis Herbert, which is available on your extension site should give the engineers an idea of what's needed).

Why is this so greatly needed? This simple function drastically cuts down the amount of time it takes to produce and audiobook. In some cases, 5 to 10 fold. I know with the 3rd party plugin created by Travis Herbert, my production time decreased by an average of 30 to 50 minutes per chapter. With a 52 chapter or greater book, that is a HUGE amount of time saved.

Travis Herbert, an Adobe user and software engineer, programed a PnR third party plug-in for Audition that works well with 2017 and later versions, but now that 2018 is out, it will have to be updated. It would be easier if AA adopted this program and made it standard so an outside party doesn't have to deal with constant updates and revisions.

Does any forum moderator have any comments about this request?

Thanks,

Rhett

SteveG_AudioMasters_ · Accepted Answer

TheVoiceofRhett wroteTravis Herbert, an Adobe user and software engineer, programed a PnR third party plug-in for Audition that works well with 2017 and later versions, but now that 2018 is out, it will have to be updated. It would be easier if AA adopted this program and made it standard so an outside party doesn't have to deal with constant updates and revisions.One of the major reasons for Adobe offering the 'Extensions' option on the portal is so that they don't have to adopt any of these plugins - it's effectively the developer's job to maintain them. I believe that one of the principles behind this is that if apps were adopted and programmed directly into the software, the additional maintenance effort required for them would detract from programming effort being extended to future upgrades of the main software. So it's sort-of spreading the load, as it were.

Ron Broach · Answer

I'll add my voice to the number of people who need this functionality. The lack of Punch-and-Roll is the single reason I use Studio One instead of Audition for recording. I like Audition's setup, and capabilities, effects, and visuals - but the lack of punch-and-roll is a game ender for anyone recording more than a few minutes of audio at a time. This really needs to be incorporated into the program as a native capability.

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