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Using Virtual Instruments in Adobe Audition CC CS (MIDI)

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October 24, 2016
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I'll just be quick to mention this for anyone interested in that four letter word (MIDI), and get out of here quick as I only just escaped last time with my life

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Set AU start time to 1:2.00 to sync bars n beats to vsti's like EZDrummer EZKeys RapidComposer etc..

Load IL Minihost Modular (FX).dll into a track with a wav or empty wav

The piano roll editor don't sync to the host so you can use MidiLooper piano roll 32/64 Win Mac Insert Piz Here - midiLooper

midiOut 32bit Win Mac use JBridge for 64 Insert Piz Here - midiOut can be used for MTC sync to another audio app (but Mac midiOut lacks MTC)

midiIn 32bit Win Mac use JBridge for 64 Insert Piz Here - midiIn

You can Render it by recording the VI to another track.

There is a Re-wire VSTi ReWire VST - VST plugin with ReWire works with midi.

You can also use a VSTi like RapidComposer Music Prototyping and Automated Music Composition

If you come up way a better way to have midi support, please post it here for those that keep asking for that four letter word.

It is the same Au Grey

How to

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Mindshaker

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Was that English? This did not answer my question. This is the only thing that google search brings up on the issue. Did I join a conversation in the middle? Does or does not Adobe Audition support VST instruments?

SteveG_AudioMasters_

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Audition does not support VST instruments, no. The limited support there was was dropped after Audition 3.

SteveG_AudioMasters_

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Sorry. I know I'm hopping in way way late on this, but do you have any idea why this is. Also, on my current version in the effectts rack drop down VST and VST3 still show up. Is that an error?

Why would they leave that there if they aren't supported?

What does Adobe think Audition should be used for? Without VST or MIDI support, I'm curious why they even offer multi-track recording.

Could you lead me to a tutorial on incorporating EZ Drummer 2 into Audition?

Thanks!

VST and VST3 are supported; VSTi and presumably VST3i (if that's actually a thing) are not - so no, it's not an error. Adobe thinks, with considerable justification, that Audition is primarily an audio editor, used in every radio station around the world; and increasingly as an audio post editor for sweetening video production, hence its increasing level of integration with Premiere.

Since EZDrummer lists Audition as unsupported, I don't think you'll find any tutorials about this.

Audition is a multitrack audio editor, and doesn't even attempt to cut it as music creation software, as such. An attempt to include MIDI was made back when Audition 3 was introduced, but there were problems with it, and at the time the conclusion was that they'd always be playing catch-up with the established software titles, so it was dropped in favour of a dual-platform redevelopment that would ultimately integrate better with Premiere. As a multitrack recorder and editor of live music (which is how I primarily use it) it's pretty good; not all music by any means requires MIDI. Audition 3 also had Rewire - which if it could be got to work would be a good compromise as far as MIDI is concerned, but once again it wasn't trouble-free and was dropped.

But you have to remember that Adobe is primarily very much a visuals company. When they first took over Syntrillium and Cool Edit, many of us thought that it would be the end of it - we thought that all they wanted was the brains of the development team, so that they could improve the audio in Premiere. But no, they persevered, and it's still here with many of its original features intact, for which we should be grateful. But its development is very much driven by the big ticket users - the ones with thousands of seats. What they want inevitably gets priority, because that's what pays the wages.

MusoCityAuthor

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For anyone else contacting me about RapidComposer VSTi here is an example of RC sending back to Kontakt.

Remember to Save/Load your connection Graph in MiniHost.

Ableton has ReWire support, you can try the ReWireVSTi in MiniHost.

MusoCityAuthor

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Another way is Blue Cat's PatchWork - Fully Configurable Plug-Ins Chainer / Standalone Host or Plug-In

There are Win/Mac Demo Downloads on the right you can try.

MusoCityAuthor

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AU ReWire Reaper

Bob Howes

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For the OP, an interesting solution. My personal way of incorporating MIDI is to create my MIDI sounds in Ableton, convert them to wave files, then transfer to Audition for editing and mixing.. I know of others who work in a similar way using a variety of other software for the MIDI portion.

As you probably gather, this is a "hot topic" with users pretty split on whether they want MIDI implementation in Audition or not.

Charles VW

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Thanks for the info Bob.

SteveG_AudioMasters_

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And, moving swiftly on...

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