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Sorting In Bridge

Participant ,
Jan 09, 2024 Jan 09, 2024

I am shooting in Raw/Jpeg and downloading to Bridge.

Have tried carrying images to Lightroom, still having issues with "sorting"  Keepers vs discards.

In Bridge (version 14.0.1.137) one can sort by file name - this will place images in RAW and JPEG otherwise they will display side by side.  

If one wants to see JPEG as the primary sort image, and chooses to delete an image, it does not delete the Raw Image with same file name.  Same result viewing the RAW and deleting it, JPEG then remains. Defeats the purpose of trying to sort and delete image by file name extension.  

 

Chat support offered a URL, but I can not post it here.  Error returns.

 

Posts to this issue and sorting date back years, something that could be helped in an update.

Solution to this "issue" would benifit many users.

I attempted to follow instructions to place for the team, yet it will not accept my user e-mail/password that is active.

Solution would be most appreciated.

CTS

 

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Community Expert ,
Jan 09, 2024 Jan 09, 2024

If you have the original raw images, there is no reason to place a jpg image into LRC. Personally, I never keep both the jpg and raw in Bridge either because, in both cases, if I enhance one, I need to do the same thing (albeit harder to do with a jpg) to the other. If I need jpgs, I create them from the raw image and then toss them once I've done what I need with them. If I need another at a later date, I recreate them again. (The extra burden of organizing a single image in two different formats is not worth the few seconds I might save in not having to recreate them a 2nd time.

 

But my needs may very well be different than yours; what are your needs for shooting and storing both raw and jpg?

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Participant ,
Jan 09, 2024 Jan 09, 2024

Gary,

Thank You for your advice and assistance.

I am an ametuer at best, had never  used RAW before the new R7.  I do not publish, do share with a select few online. 

So many publications, users advise to keep and use RAW, howerver I find JPEG is much easier to view the "quality".

Saving both formats is a storage issue too.

Based upon your suggestions - I should only save RAW, create jpeg for the ones I have selected as keepers and to share.

This being said, there is no interface or preference that allows the procedure I was inquiring about.

I was trying to use the "camera enhanced" jpegs to determine keeper vs trash.

 

 

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Community Expert ,
Jan 09, 2024 Jan 09, 2024

Hi, @ctsnowfighter, actually there is, but I guess you need to know where to look. ;>)

 

In Bridge select all of the images you wish to convert into a jpg. From the Tools (menu), go to Photoshop -> Image Processor. 

 

Here, select what you want, and click "Run."

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If there is a size setting that you like and use a lot, you can speed things up by going to the Export Panel and pre-create those settings. Here are some that I use often enough to have already made some presets.

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When you drag the selected images onto the preset that you want, they will all be resized. Note that the setup is a tad different than in the Image Processor (what you're seeing below is scrolled down a bit, you cannot resize this setting layout).

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 Notice on the Resize to: the 2nd dropdown says "width height." This means that whichever is larger will be honored; the other dimension will be sized proportionally, like the Image Processor. 

 

On the Lightroom Classic side, it's different but the same.

 

To create new presets, you do this from the File (menu) -> Export… and this brings up this window. (Again, the window doesn't resize, so I'm only showing a portion.)

 

You first start to create a Preset by clicking the "Add" button on the bottom right side, then you set the desired settings on the right.

 

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 To access this, select the desired images, then go to the File (menu) -> Export with Preset and select the Preset you want. 

 

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Let me add that I always use Presets with size (longest edge). If I need to export a TIF or PNG, I'd create a new one at that time.

 

One last big-time warning: play with these BEFORE you need them. It's always a challenge to resolve issues when you feel under pressure. Create new Presets and make sure they do what you want them to do. As you play with them, you'll find out which options are the easiest for you to work with and what kind of jobs are best done with which kind of saving mechanism. FWIW, I use all of them.

 

What I do not do is to cull my images in Bridge and then import the desired ones into LRC. I play Keep & Toss in LRC. It's fast and easy, and I can quickly do a couple of enhancements with images to choose between the two. If it's an image(s) I want in my LRC catalog, it goes into LRC. If it's an image I have no need or desire to put into a catalog, it goes into Bridge. SOMETIMES, I use Bridge because it's faster to take a folder of images and open that folder in Bridge to see what I've got. Then later, import the images into LRC, but that is rare.

 

OH, before I forget: JPG images are enhanced before they leave the camera. Raw images do not. That's why raw images often do not look as dynamic as a JPG. However, what you can DO with a raw image so far exceeds what you can do with a jpg… Well, let me show you (BTW, both images are a bit soft because you cannot place an image to anything but small, medium, or large in this forum, sorry).:

 

This is a jpg image that has been enhanced as far as it can go. There's nothing more that can be done with this.

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Here's the same image from the original raw image that's been enhanced as far as it can go. (Look at the ceiling, the far trains, the bright spots, the texture, the rails, and the trees in the back.):

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Using either Adobe Camera Raw or Lightroom Classic (or Lightroom Desktop), you can enhance raw images far beyond what you can do with a jpg.

 

Lastly, here's a quick tip: In LRC or in Adobe Camera Raw, select all of your raw images and click on "Auto" for adjustments. This will NOT fix the images to the final perfection, but it will get you 70%–80% of the way. After that, you can fine-tune the end results to your satisfaction.

 

 

 

 

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Participant ,
Jan 09, 2024 Jan 09, 2024

Gary,

Thank You again,

I printed instructions so I can follow them, this is new "track to be laid".

Enjoyed the locomotive picture and demonstration!

 

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Community Expert ,
Jan 09, 2024 Jan 09, 2024
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I assembled those train photos last year when I was doing a talk on photography to a group of people who take photos but were not photographers (and probably none of them had an Adobe product). The intent of my talk was essentially "photography beyond pressing the button." They were conveniently "handy," so I thought I'd also toss them into the response.

 

When it comes to expanding the capabilities of these tools, I strongly recommend that you follow these YouTube folks.

 

https://www.youtube.com/@photoshopcafe

https://www.youtube.com/@AnthonyMorganti

https://www.youtube.com/@PhotoshopTrainingChannel

https://www.youtube.com/@brianmatiash

 

and for learning how to use your camera, this is the guy

https://www.youtube.com/@simon_dentremont

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