P: Adaptive Profiles

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Camera Raw.  
Feedback for Lightroom Classic and Lightroom Desktop should be posted here.

Update February 2025:

Adobe has introduced two Adaptive Profiles – Adaptive Color & Adaptive B&W.

Getting started with the Adaptive Profiles: 

• Access a profile inside the profile favorites menu. 
• In addition, there is a new section for Adaptive Profiles in the Profiles browser. 
• Enable the profile and adjust the ‘Amount’ slider as desired. 
• Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise. 

Check out the Help Page for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this blog post. 

Please try the profiles and share feedback in this community forum thread. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information as possible about what you like or do not like about the resulting image quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues and improve the future experience. 

Best practices for using the Adaptive Profiles:
 

Try the new profile in the following scenarios: 

• For food scenes. 
• In situations where simply moving Tone and Color sliders may not be sufficient, such as for: high-contrast scenes, landscape or cityscape scenes with skies. 
• For High-Dynamic-Range (HDR) photography, simply select Adaptive Color or Adaptive B&W as a profile and click on the ‘HDR’ button. 
  
  Note: Adaptive Profiles generate HDR and Standard Dynamic Range (SDR) data jointly, creating photos that look consistent with one another. In other words, after applying either of these profiles, if you toggle the HDR button on or off, you will see either the adaptive HDR or SDR look, depending on the position of the toggle.  

To maximize the value of using Adaptive Profiles, please follow these steps: 

• Always start from the Adobe Default or Camera Default rendering (with no other edits) and enable the Adaptive Profile first. 
• Reset any other settings before applying the profile. 
• Make additional global and local edits after assigning the profile, just as you would begin to edit photos with Adobe Color or any other profile. 

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group 

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[Ann Varley]

Thanks JoAnn, that helps! I hope that profile is added to LRC soon.
Workarounds are a necessary bother, but I'll do what I must.

[Lightfreak]

I have been using it for 5 minutes.
With an unfortunately overexposed background or sky and have to say “WOW”!!!
My naked eye didn't recognize anything and mountains (part of the Dolomites) and clouds appeared out of nowhere. Haven't tested much more yet but I love it already!!!

[MOS20000]

Tested it with some images by now (only monochrome profile) and it is a good starting point to a b/w transformation.

It is biased on a more HDR look, but not overpowering the effects.

Problem is the general effect of conformity when everybody will use it - smells a bit like "just another filter ready to use" - but it is a good one as far as I can tell.

Will definetely incorporate it into my upcoming monochrome workflow - but only as a comparison point to the b/w profiles of my cameras - those fulfill specific film simulation needs. When printing there may be better results as I can predict the way it looks on specific papers and can mimic those well known looks better.

Online it will work just fine as it adds a little "wow" to some images without extensive fiddling on editing panes.

If it was up to me to integrate it - I would love to see it in the b/w mixer pane with some added dials for balance of some clever base parameters like "shadows balance" or "highlight texture".

[stephenb22492886]

I only see the new Camera Raw features if I open Photoshop Beta from Bridge. I do not see the features if I open Photoshop Beta from Lightroom Classic. Does anyone else have this issue?

[drtonyb]

@stephenb22492886 

Please see this question and the replies:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-adobe-adaptive-profile-beta/m-p/15044113#M26... 

[digital paradise]

You prbably have the answer but just case. Open PS, Settings, Camera RAW, Technology Previews and check the box. I tried it and was impressed and I love the new non-destructive Denoise AI but I'm going to hold out until LrC gets it.  I just prefer my current workflow.                       

[jas4bg]

I used the adaptive profile for a few hour tonight on a series of not very well lit ballet photos. I was very pleasantly surprised!. High contrast, weird color temperatures in the photos. This profile opened up a new world where I didn't have to be nearly as extereme to get a  basic look that I was happy with. Hurry up and release it for Lightrrom! So many profiles are tailored for outddor shots...none for theater. This is working for me. Thank you.

[ivo_6612]

dakr and moodz portrait get overblown and white, person bezond repair.... i dont get it, it is the worst feature i have ever seen

[Kaustubh Gogate]

I tried it with my sony raw image and found to be useful to the basic level or we may say a landing platform for further adjustments. For an experienced photographer like me, if I have shot some landscape with some pre-decided outputs I may want from, still it provides sufficient tonal handling in my perspective. I know, every image will be different, intentions will be different, shooting styles may be different. Yet providing a landing platform like this profile is quite useful. I liked the way it handle tonal values. Pretty good to start with. Still, I don't know much of the tech side of it, attaching here the shot to which I applied the profile. (There are no more adjustments made other than applying profile.)

[Mikaela_Klaesson1703]

So how do you automaticly apply the profile as "default" if i want to batch images thru a action or a jsx script? Since it no longer can be set in camera raw filter you cant go in "again" and make a preset or record it in a action?

[renatosilva]

I was working my HDRs much better with the older ACR version. The HDR merge gives me far worse results with this upgrade, and turns out that I can't save the DNGs to JPGs in PS anymore!! What happened there??

[bradf93189156]

It would be a nice option to be able to click on a before and after button like there is in Masking and other edit options in Camera Raw.

[bradf93189156]

I am editing my post from 2 minutes ago.  I should have specified that it would be a nice option for AI Adaptive Color to have a before and after button to decide whether the generated computer model of a specific image was an acceptable edit or how much of the Adaptive Color edit to allow with the Amount slider.

[DS256]

I'm excited, taken back, by Adaptive Profiles (AP).

First, I am an amateur photographer primarily working with landscapes.

While I see the benefits of AP, I'm concerned about the reliquishing of control of editting the photograph to AI. Yes, you can still manually edit your photo but, it appears from reading the blog, the tables work on grandularity not exposed by standard controls and masks. As far as I can see, AP does not result in any controls being set even when AP is making global changes. It sounds like what is needed in making the same granulated changes manually is to change the way we do masking and make it an option for each control rather than being separate with some controls associate with each mask. 

I have tried AP and like it but am now at a turning point. I watermark my images with 'Photograph' or 'Digital Art from Photograph'. I'm feeling that if I use AP, I should be using the later since I have not made the concious designed on tone and colour controls.

Still playing with it.

[Treefrog Photography]

In general the adaptive profiles work well, however they fail miserably when applied to images that have been Photo Merged HDR.  You get large strips of different treatment.

[DS256]

Interesting. Are you applying AP before or after HDR. I can see issues if you apply before HDR.

[Treefrog Photography]

I take the 3 unprocessed RAW files and do a Photo Merge / HDR.  After the HDR image is created I go to the develop module had chage the profile to Adaptive Color.  The result is banding and shadows as shown in the attached image.

[Mark37430984r9lw]

To preface my feedback, I am an amateur bird photographer and take bursts of RAW images with a point and shoot Nikon P1000.  I’m getting better at the Photoshop suite but can still be considered a relative “newbie.” 

My workflow involves opening a RAW image in Adobe Camera RAW, and then I usually use the Adobe Color profile and start with the “Auto” feature before making additional tweaks and then moving on Photoshop.  This process generally works well, but sometimes the results are awful.  Under these circumstances, the “Adaptive Color” profile sometimes does a much better job of tweaking the photo.   

So, Adobe, pelase keep the feauure, as I'm very happy with it.

[richardjallan]

I have found the adaptive profiles to work extremely well generally. Especially if the image is not perfectly exposed or is very high contrast. If the image is well exposed and not very contrasty I tend to use a different profile in most circumstances.

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[schroederdavid64@gmail.com]

Knee jerk response to first time trial with landscape images:  A bit too saturated for my taste - too artificial and magazine like.

[digital paradise]

There is an amount slider.

[ArkRepro]

Adaptive color does a decent job of recovering blown out highligts, or at least gives a more naturall looking rolloff towards the clipped areas. However, since the 'amount' slider adjusts the entire image, the darker areas are severelly crushed long before the highlights are recovered.

[sturmen105]

Just wanted to chime in and say that I enjoy the look of the Adaptive Color profile, especially when developing in HDR.

[digital paradise]

I apply Adapive Color to everything now. Great skin tones. I shot a marathon as a charity a few years ago. I used Adobe Neutral followed by Auto and tweaked exposure, etc. I processed about 500 files in about 1 and 1/2 hours.

I did that again this past Sunday. I used Adaptive Clolor and just tweaked to level a bit and crop. I cut that developing session time by about 2/3 comapared to the last time..                      

[Dal_s_Photography]

I was trying adaptative color with my raf (Fuji) photos, but I didn't imagine the rescue of some fail photos taken almost with a dark afternoon and also inside a forest. I used denoise, and blur and here is the comparison! Thanks Adobe. Using LR and an old 2017 Imac (with the big screen that I love) and still Ventura os.