P: Camera-Matching Profiles: Requests and information

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Camera-matching Profiles are applicable to Camera Raw, Lightroom Classic, and the Lightroom Ecosystem products (Desktop, Mobile, and Web).

Note: Not all cameras will receive camera-matching profiles.

This thread is a place to request missing camera-matching profiles for specific models. Please include a complete camera model designation and a list of the specific camera-matching profiles you are requesting in your request. If your camera is already listed in this thread, please reply to the specific camera’s post rather than just posting in-line.

Camera-matching profiles are provided for some camera manufacturers and models. As raw support is added for individual camera models, camera-matching profiles for some cameras may be added when raw support is initially offered.  Other cameras may see camera-matching profiles added at a later date. It is also possible that a specific camera may see a long delay or perhaps not ever receive a specific camera-matching profile.

Note:

ETAs for camera-matching profiles are not available. New feature announcements are only made after support is added.

[Ali Yeo]

Can you please do one for Canon R6 mk ii (newly released), specifally the neutral colour profile. I have a EOS R as my B cam, and when i edited both the photos it turned out so differently, it is a nightmare! 

I'm using Camera Matching Neutral v2 on my Eos R, and Camera Matching Neutral on my Eos R6ii (i don't think the curves are accurate, the shadows are crushed and the highlights are higher than what I'm used to)

[Steven27404922b331]

Hello,  I used to edit all my raw images taken with my DJI Air2S drone using the color profile "Adobe Lanscape".  This was a very helpful starting point and made my drone photos really pop.  I have sinced moved on to the Mavic 3 and with my RAW/DNG images, I am only able to choose from Color/Monochrome color profiles.  I called customer service and they stated that they cannot help me download a plug-in to add that color profile to the Mavic 3 images.  It would need to be a app updated that allows us to use it.  Please Adobe, allow us to use "Adobe Landscape" color profile with our Mavic 3 and Mini 3 pro raw drone photos.  

[David1249]

When is Adobe going to get off their butts and add the missing profiles for the Fujifilm X-T5.  Classic neg, Nostalgic Neg and one other I don't care about bleach bypass is/are still missing from camera matching profiles.  They are all available in Fufi X Raw Studio and Capture One 23 so get with it Adobe.  Please! It's been a month already. How long does it take to re-write a string of code? PS, I've been a sub to the Adobe plan for years now.  First time I've ever been disappointed.

[TheDigitalDog]

When is Adobe going to get off their butts and add the missing profiles for the Fujifilm X-T5.  Classic neg, Nostalgic Neg and one other I don't care about bleach bypass is/are still missing from camera matching profiles. 

By @David1249

Yeah, especially after they promised to....

Oh wait. 🤔

 

[geraldm78661191]

How do I create a camera profile for a Fujifilm X-T5 camera tp be able to use it in Lightroom Classic?

[John R Ellis]

You can use the DNG Profile Editor to create your own camera-raw profiles:

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/digital-negative.html#DNGProfileEditorSeptember2012

Support for a new camera from a leading manufacturer typically comes in the LR release following the release of the camera or, less frequently, the second following release.  A new version of LR comes out about every 8 weeks, so we might expect to see LR 12.1 in a week or two. (I have no inside information on this, and Adobe never announces such things ahead of time.)

[GoldingD]

Oddly, while the X-T5 was released After LrC v12.0 was released, the X-T5 is supported. Yep, not normal, but it occured. 

[John R Ellis]

"Oddly, while the X-T5 was released After LrC v12.0 was released, the X-T5 is supported."

Perhaps because Fuji provided a review sample they said was running the same firmware as the shipping version:

https://www.photographyblog.com/previews/fujifilm_x_t5_photos 

[geraldm78661191]

Hi,Thank you. That's reassuring.Regards,Gerald Murphy

[GoldingD]

What is the issue you are having?

What version of LrC do you have?

[TheDigitalDog]

Indeed, the free DNG Profile Editor can do this if you have a supported MacBeth ColorChecker but its really old, buggy, and no longer supported. 

If you have the target, you can download the free ColorChecker  Passport software from X-rite. 

https://calibrite.com/us/software-downloads/

[geraldm78661191]

Thank you but I don't think that's what I'm looking for.Regards,Gerald Murphy

[John R Ellis]

What are you looking for?

[TheDigitalDog]

Thank you but I don't think that's what I'm looking for.
By @geraldm78661191

So you do not want to "create a camera profile for a Fujifilm X-T5", what do you want? 

[GoldingD]

If you were looking for the missing Camera Matching Profiles, for the Fujifilm X-T5, they just appeared in LrC v12.1 released tonight!

[geraldm78661191]

Thank you very much. I have today updated Lightroom Classic, Camera Raw and Photoshop to the latest versions and I can see the X-T4 and X-T5 in the list of profiles. What I am still unable to do is to see such camera or lens profiles in my Develop Module - Lens Correction Panel Profiles section. All that are listed are a couple of old lens profiles and camera profiles for some of the Fuji X100 series cameras. None are shown for any of the X-T series cameras. How do I get these later versions to show. In a way, that's why I wanted to know how to create a profile.Regards,Gerald Murphy

[GoldingD]

Thank you very much. I have today updated Lightroom Classic, Camera Raw and Photoshop to the latest versions and I can see the X-T4 and X-T5 in the list of profiles. What I am still unable to do is to see such camera or lens profiles in my Develop Module - Lens Correction Panel Profiles section. All that are listed are a couple of old lens profiles and camera profiles for some of the Fuji X100 series cameras. None are shown for any of the X-T series cameras. How do I get these later versions to show. In a way, that's why I wanted to know how to create a profile.Regards,Gerald Murphy
By @geraldm78661191

You are using mirrorless cameras, their are no lens corrections to be had, in camera corrections are applied by default. Adobe will not be adding any. This is not Fuji specific. I remember that their is an old Ideas post to undo this concept, but it fell on death ears.

[deejjjaaaa]

> You are using mirrorless cameras, their are no lens corrections to be had, in camera corrections are applied by default. 

as noted - NOT true - example dSLM cameras from Canon and Sony - Adobe is not using optics correction data present in the raw files... one can speculate there are some vendor specific agreements (like with Fuji - not to provide film emulation profiles as standalone DCP profiles to prevent copying - instead they are hardcoded in ACR/LR code itself)

so while with Fuji or M43 Adobe indeed is forcing users to have mandatory optics correction (unless one does raw -> DNG -> strip whatever optics correction tags one want not to use -> ACR/LR) with others it is vice versa - even optics corrections data is there Adobe will not use it ... 

[John R Ellis]

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To build on GoldingD's reply, the Lens Corrections panel will indicate when it is applying a lens profile that the camera embedded in the raw file:

In general, for such cameras, Adobe won't be providing its own lens profiles, since the manufacturers are embedding their profiles in the raw files.

Note that the Help for lens profiles has been out-of-date for 2.5 years and contains incorrect information about this:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/out-of-date-help-page-for-embedded-lens-profil... 

[deejjjaaaa]

> In general, for such cameras, Adobe won't be providing its own lens profiles, since the manufacturers are embedding their profiles in the raw files.

in general this is NOT true - for example both Canon and Sony do embed optics correction data ( in Sony case even for 3rd party lenses like from Samyang ) in their raw files ( for dSLM models - I can't comment about dSLRs or dSLTs) but Adobe is not using that instead feeding us their profiles (and often with big delay) ... 

[John R Ellis]

"in general this is NOT true - for example both Canon and Sony do embed optics correction data ( in Sony case even for 3rd party lenses like from Samyang ) in their raw files ( for dSLM models - I can't comment about dSLRs or dSLTs) but Adobe is not using that instead feeding us their profiles (and often with big delay) ... "

I haven't seen that reported in the Adobe forums before. Do you have a link to where this has been discussed?  Better, please provide a sample raw in which the manufacturer has embedded a lens profile but which is not applied by LR and Camera Raw -- upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.

[deejjjaaaa]

> I haven't seen that reported in the Adobe forums before. Do you have a link to where this has been discussed?  Better, please provide a sample raw in which the manufacturer has embedded a lens profile but which is not applied by LR and Camera Raw -- upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.

1) google is your friend

2) raw files aplenty @ sites like imaging resources 

[TheDigitalDog]

> I haven't seen that reported in the Adobe forums before. Do you have a link to where this has been discussed?  Better, please provide a sample raw in which the manufacturer has embedded a lens profile but which is not applied by LR and Camera Raw -- upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.

1) google is your friend

2) raw files aplenty @ sites like imaging resources 

By @deejjjaaaa

He isn't (can't) answer your simple question John. That isn't his posting agenda here. 😢

[deejjjaaaa]

> He isn't (can't) answer your simple question John. That isn't his posting agenda here.

why shall I bother with somebody who can't download a raw file from imaging-resource.com , run C-Transformer or S-Transformer and  ( OMG !!! several years after the fact ) find out that optics correction data is all there ? 

[TheDigitalDog]

I haven't seen that reported in the Adobe forums before. Do you have a link to where this has been discussed?  Better, please provide a sample raw in which the manufacturer has embedded a lens profile but which is not applied by LR and Camera Raw

> He isn't (can't) answer your simple question John. That isn't his posting agenda here.

why shall I bother with somebody who can't download a raw file from imaging-resource.com , run C-Transformer or S-Transformer and  ( OMG !!! several years after the fact ) find out that optics correction data is all there ? 

By @deejjjaaaa

Once again: He isn't (can't) and will not answer your simple question, John.

This IS his posting agenda here:

By deejjjaaaa:
no - you attempted to generalize and you were corrected 
1 ) do not generalize

don't generalize and you will be fine

Let me repeat your words prior:

By (the other?) deejjjaaaa:
in general this is NOT true - for example (bla, bla bla).