Captivate 8 - Click Box Deduct Points for incorrect click

Report · Dec 29, 2014

I am working on building a simulation assessment for a course I am working on. I don't want to use the hot spot quiz question due to the required use of the submit button. I have set up a simulation where there are 10 steps that are graded. The learner gets two attempts. If the learner clicks correctly the first attempt, I want to award 10 points. If they click correctly the second attempt, I only want to award 5 points. If they click incorrectly both times, they are awarded 0 points. I must be able to report the final score as a percentage to my LMS. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Report · Dec 29, 2014

That will be very complicated to realize! If you didn't have to report to a LMS, it would be easier but all system quizzing variables are read-only. Link score to attempts in Custom questions - Captivate blog has an example, but no reporting was needed.

That means that you'll have to find a way to have two interactive objects, each with 5 points, to be clicked on first attempt, and only one on second attempt. But you do not want a Submit button? If you have a look at this old post, you'll perhaps understand what I mean:

Report Custom Questions - part 2 - Captivate blog

Report · Dec 29, 2014

Thank you for your reply. I don’t want to use the submit buttons on the hot spot questions because they destroy the flow of the process. If there was a way to auto submit a hot spot, I would happily complete it this way. I guess what I really want to be able to do is to update the cpInfoPercentage system variable using either Advanced Actions or Javascript.

Thanks,

Jeremy

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Report · Dec 29, 2014

This seems like it would be tricky to do out of the box... (Although I could be wrong! Maybe the experts will know of a way )

I know Lieve's latest post talks about custom hotspot questions, but those have multiple hot spots with partial scoring, not a single hotspot with partial scoring based on number of tries: Custom Hotspot questions in Captivate 8 - Captivate blog

There is the Interactive Master Widget, but I've never used it so I can't say for certain that it would do what you need it to.

The problem as far as I see it (which perhaps you're aware of) is that any scored object will add to the total number of points and mess up your percentage. So you could have two smart shape buttons with one attempt each, one worth 10 and the other worth 5. The first is visible, but on failure hides itself and shows the second. But with that method you'd have 15 points total, not 10.

In the past I saw something where someone sent their own score to the LMS using JavaScript and then closed the project before Captivate could overwrite that score, but I don't know if that's doable these days. (Report Custom SCORM Variables with JavaScript | Infosemantics Pty Ltd)

EDIT: Woops, slow to post. I'll leave this, though, in case any of it is useful.

Report · Dec 29, 2014

@Elakat Indeed, that was what I tried to explain in the post about reporting custom question scores. You cannot have two objects with 5 and 10 points, but you need two objects with 5 points and find a way to have both clicked on the first attempt, and only one on the second. That is why I asked about a button, it doesn't have to be a Submit button, could be a Next button. With two versions of that button, one with 0 and one with 5 points (that are shown with a conditional advanced action) the problem is solved.

@jtodd806 I don't understand why you point to the default hotspot question slide, because it certainly could never realize what you want. I was just asking for another button, because that could provide a solution as I explained here quickly.

The Master Widget could be used, but only for SWF output. In the past I also had a solution with JS from a Captivate friend, but I'm not sure if this will still work.

Report · Dec 29, 2014

That makes more sense. I will try that and see how it works.

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