Hi everybody,I've been working on what I thought was a simple advanced action to essentially hide a slide and disallow access until an interaction is successfully completed. For some reason I can't get it to work and I can't find the error in my logic. I'm hoping fresh eyes/brains will catch what I can't!Slide A is part 1 of a 2-part interaction. Upon visiting slide A, a variable (VAR) is assigned '0'. At the end of the advanced action to verify the correct answer, VAR is assigned '1' when the answer is correct.Slide B is part 2 of the interaction. I want this slide to only be accessible after part 1 is successfully completed. After the slide has loaded there's an action to assign a second variable, var_slide_status with 'visited'.Slide C comes after B and is just a regular slide, not part of the interaction. On slide entry, VAR is assigned '2'.Slide B has a validation advanced action that manages different navigation scenarios, it goes something like this (using multiple decision blocks):if var=0, jump to Slide C (skips Slide B since Slide A wasn't answered correctly)if var=1, continue and assign var_slide_status with 'visited' (Slide A answered correctly, Slide B continues and assigns a variable saying it has been visited)if var=2 AND var_slide_status != 'visited', jump to Slide A (allows for backward navigation while skipping Slide B)if var=2 AND var_slide_status='visited', continue (allows backward navigation to Slide B so user doesn't have to re-do Part 1)if var=0 AND var_slide_status='visited', continue (allows re-navigation forward since VAR will revert back to 0 when Slide A is re-visited)Right now, the navigation isn't working as expected. The back and forward skipping Slide B works fine if Slide A is not answered correctly or isn't attempted. Slide B also shows up fine when Slide A is answered correctly. The problem lies when Slide B is accessed and I move forward to Slide C. Every time I click back from Slide C, instead of going back to revisit Slide B as I hoped, Slide C reloads itself. If I click twice really fast, it will jump to Slide A, but never Slide B even though it has already previously been visited. Then when it takes me back to Slide A, when I go forwardI hope this makes sense because I had a time figuring out to begin with. It makes sense to me but clearly I'm not doing something right. Can anyone take a look and figure out what I'm doing wrong?

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Need a sanity check for an advanced action

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Hi everybody,

I've been working on what I thought was a simple advanced action to essentially hide a slide and disallow access until an interaction is successfully completed. For some reason I can't get it to work and I can't find the error in my logic. I'm hoping fresh eyes/brains will catch what I can't!

Slide A is part 1 of a 2-part interaction. Upon visiting slide A, a variable (VAR) is assigned '0'. At the end of the advanced action to verify the correct answer, VAR is assigned '1' when the answer is correct.

Slide B is part 2 of the interaction. I want this slide to only be accessible after part 1 is successfully completed. After the slide has loaded there's an action to assign a second variable, var_slide_status with 'visited'.

Slide C comes after B and is just a regular slide, not part of the interaction. On slide entry, VAR is assigned '2'.

Slide B has a validation advanced action that manages different navigation scenarios, it goes something like this (using multiple decision blocks):

if var=0, jump to Slide C (skips Slide B since Slide A wasn't answered correctly)
if var=1, continue and assign var_slide_status with 'visited' (Slide A answered correctly, Slide B continues and assigns a variable saying it has been visited)
if var=2 AND var_slide_status != 'visited', jump to Slide A (allows for backward navigation while skipping Slide B)
if var=2 AND var_slide_status='visited', continue (allows backward navigation to Slide B so user doesn't have to re-do Part 1)
if var=0 AND var_slide_status='visited', continue (allows re-navigation forward since VAR will revert back to 0 when Slide A is re-visited)

Right now, the navigation isn't working as expected. The back and forward skipping Slide B works fine if Slide A is not answered correctly or isn't attempted. Slide B also shows up fine when Slide A is answered correctly. The problem lies when Slide B is accessed and I move forward to Slide C. Every time I click back from Slide C, instead of going back to revisit Slide B as I hoped, Slide C reloads itself. If I click twice really fast, it will jump to Slide A, but never Slide B even though it has already previously been visited. Then when it takes me back to Slide A, when I go forward

I hope this makes sense because I had a time figuring out to begin with. It makes sense to me but clearly I'm not doing something right. Can anyone take a look and figure out what I'm doing wrong?

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Lilybiri

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Please, post a screenshot of the advanced actions.

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Yes of course, sorry I didn't think to do that before!

Just to preface, my naming conventions are not ideal as you'll see one variable and the advanced action have the same name, so hopefully that does't confuse.

Here's Slide A on enter, and then the validation of the interaction:

Here's Slide B, on enter and the decision blocks within that advanced action:

And here's Slide C on enter:

Lilybiri

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I was totally unaware of both the advanced action preview and the advanced interaction view...so thank you! I'm still new to Captivate and figuring it all out so simple tips like these are very helpful!

As far as having an action occur when the 'Back' button is clicked, how exactly would I do that? I'm using the in-built playbar controls rather than custom buttons for navigation.

Here are some screenshots of the views you mentioned, hopefully this is more clear as to what's going on. Also, I changed the advanced action name so it is unique rather than in conflict with the variable name (I tested and it made no difference as far as the functionality).

I'm trying to figure out what you exactly want to achieve.

Another tip: do not use the default playbar when you start working with navigation changed by advanced actions, but use custom navigation buttons. At this moment you are limiting the 'events' that can trigger an advanced action to the slide events, with custom navigation you'll have the Success events of the buttons as well. It would then be much easier to skip a slide when navigating back or Forward. Moreover, with most playbars, you'll have the progress bar. The user can always scrub that progress bar to end up on any slide, at any frame. That is clearly not what you want in this case.

Let me try to translate your scenario:

Creation of two user variables, will label them v_check and v_visit; v_visit (Boolean) has a default value of 0; v_check == 0 using the On Enter event of slide 27
Button_52: sort of Submit button, its Success event will check fields entries (TEB's) on 27 and if correct v_check == 1;
That same button navigates the user to slide 28 if answer is correct but...
I have no idea what happens when answer is incorrect? Does the user gets another attempt? Will v_check keep its value == 0? Or is the user also navigated to Slide 28 for an incorrect answer?
On Enter of Slide 28 for a correct answer, when the user has not visited slide 28 yet, the second decision results in True. Some text containers are hidden and the second variable v_visit == 1 (would be easier than assign a string, but that is up to you). I suppose the user remains on that slide, to do what? He can use the Back and Forward buttons on the default playbar, will navigate to 27 or to 29 in that case. Is that correct?
On Enter of Slide 28 for an incorrect answer, v_check==0 , third decision results in True, slide 28 is skipped, user goes to 29. This will also happen when the user clicks on the Back button on slide 29: he is returned to Slide 29 eternally with that Back button.
I do not understand the purpose of the first decision: why do jump to slide 28 when you are on slide 28? Replace the Jump by Continue please. This decision only results in True when the user had a correct answer, and visited both slides 28 and 29. This situation only happens when the user returns with the Back button from slide 29 or later slides. Correct?
The last decision: from my experiences with advanced actions, more specific with logical operators (check my blog, you'll see that I spent a lot of time with advanced/shared actions and variables) I am very suspicious of that last combination of two conditions
- v_check == 2 which is fine but combined with a negative
- v_visit != visited especially with strings I would never use that

My recommendation: as you can read in my long translation history above I would use a number (Boolean) for v_visit as well. When slide 28 is not yet visited, v_visit == 0 (default value, or set On Enter like v_check), when it is visited give it the value 1. The last condition will then become more trustworthy:

v_check == 2 AND
v_visit == 0

This situation would happen if the user was on slide 29 before ever having entered slide 28, correct? Is that possible?

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