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Objects start at time 0 if state changed on enter. Should start later - Please help!

Participant ,
Sep 25, 2022 Sep 25, 2022

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I have a project that requires closed captioning in 26 different languages. So I created several shape and gave it 26 states. Shape 1 should start at time 0, state 2 at tim 3 seconds and shape 3 at time 6 seconds. On enter to the slide, I have an advanced action that changes the state to say German. 

 

When the slide runs, ALL objets show up at time zero. What the heck? I created a brand new project just to test this. I've attached it below. Slide 1 is blank. Slide 2 has the 3 shapes. 

 

Please help. I'm super confused why this is happening and have no idea how to fix it. It happens with shapes and captions. 

 

Link to project (this editor wouldn't let me attach): 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NSqHumgy6WLY7sYJfsNi6mlGsPItLmpJ/view?usp=sharing

 

Thanks

 Lori

 

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Community Expert ,
Sep 26, 2022 Sep 26, 2022

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You nailed a serious bug, which I never encountered myself so far. I am using version 11.5.5.553. Please log that bug.

I didn't download your file but created a similar project myself and could reproduce the situation. 

Here is a possible workaround On Enter action, but will not be always save the situation. If you have interactive objects pausing the slide somewhere in between the appearance of the shapes, this will not work:

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Participant ,
Sep 28, 2022 Sep 28, 2022

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Thanks for the suggestion. I thought about this, but it won't really work too well for the complexity of the problem. But I appreciate your thoughts.

I did already officially log the bug. 

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Community Expert ,
Sep 29, 2022 Sep 29, 2022

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I mentioned that it will only work on simple slides, not on those with a lot of interactivity.

Another possibility is to replace the text in the containers by variables. Use the On Enter action to assign values to those variables. You can do this with a shared action or with JavaScript to avoid tons of duplicate advanced actions. I have described this possibility in some other use cases, but it could work for your workflow as well. Here are some links:

https://blog.lilybiri.com/automatic-hint-after-x-failed-clicks

https://blog.lilybiri.com/custom-review-text-for-random-questions

 

 

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Community Expert ,
Sep 26, 2022 Sep 26, 2022

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Can I ask: Why do you need captioning in 26 different languages?

Is it because you have voiceover audio in only one language but want the user to be able to see a translation of that audio in whatever other language they choose from that list?

 

Why do these captions need to be staggered on the timeline of each slide?  If you only need to show one of the 26 languages in the caption text, why not just create one CC caption object with 26 states on each slide and use Conditional Actions to show only the specific object state of that object?

Perhaps I am not understanding your use case correctly.

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Participant ,
Sep 28, 2022 Sep 28, 2022

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Yes, VO in just a few languages, but they want captions/subtitles in the 26. Client requirement, not mine of course. 

Not all the caption will fit in one caption object. Thus the need for multiple. They are also requiring that all on screen text bee available in several of the languages as well. I'm using states of course. But this requirement is real. I've tried to noodle through a million ways around it and combined text where I could, but it's not always possible. 

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Explorer ,
Oct 18, 2022 Oct 18, 2022

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This bug is baffling and I get the same results as you do.
I have tried changing the states of objects with both javascript and RodWards CpExtra, but I still get the same results: The objects all appear from start, and disappear when they should. When i don't change the states, they behave like they're supposed to.

I guess you can drop states, and just have separate boxes for each language named English_1_1_, English_1_2_, German_1_1_, German_1_2_, etc. (Language_slideNo_boxNo).
When you/the user sets the preferred language, you hide all boxes except the one with the language they choose (I guess I would hide all boxes, then show the one they choose). If you have CpExtra, this would be fairly easy using #syntax, as it would immediately hide all boxes in the entire project named e.g. Englis_*whatever*.

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Oct 18, 2022 Oct 18, 2022

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Sure, I think this is a very annoying bug. Can you log it as well?

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Oct 18, 2022 Oct 18, 2022

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Done

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Nov 02, 2022 Nov 02, 2022

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Just curious LMS_90 ... how did you end up solving your problem?

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