Pass/Fail Quiz Settings - Continue Button Continues even on Fail if Clicked 2x

Report · Feb 16, 2018

I believe I have everything set up correctly. I have an advanced action that is supposed to pause the slide if the person fails.

If a person gets a failing grade the continue button doesn't work, and the course does not advance to the next slide....but only the first time.

If I click on the Continue button 2x the course continues to the next slide. How do I solve this problem? Is this a bug?

Report · Feb 16, 2018

Is it possible to show the timeline? Do you have a slide after the score slide? Did you move the pausing point towards the end of the slide?

Report · Feb 16, 2018

Yes, I have another slide after quiz results.

Am I supposed to move the pause point towards the end?

Report · Feb 16, 2018

No, you don't have to do that, but it will shorten the time to execute the actions. At this moment it is at 1sec (default = 1,5sec) anf you have to wait 2 secs after clicking the Continue button. I would move it to 2,5secs, but don't think this will solve the problem.

Report · Feb 16, 2018

Thank you for your response. I would like to express my main concern is making sure the continue button does not execute any sort of action allowing the course to continue to the next slide if the person taking the course fails the quiz. Whether the execution I want not to happen occurs in 2 seconds or 0.5 seconds is not main concern at all.

So, is this a feature or a bug? I don't get it. How do I prevent the course from continuing to the next slide if the course-taker fails the quiz? Am I doing something wrong? Is there something I'm missing? Is there some other method I should be using?

Report · Feb 16, 2018

Can you show that advanced action that you used for Quiz Preferences, for 'If Failing Grade'? That action will be done when the end of the score slide is reached.

Report · Feb 16, 2018

and here is the else statement...

And other images for good measure, just in case you need them to analyze what I'm doing:

Report · Feb 16, 2018

Captivate users often misunderstand how the buttons and actions on the Quiz Results slide work.

You cannot reprogram what the Continue button does. It is a special button object (nor a normal button) that only appears on the Quiz Result slide. It DOES simply continue the Quiz Result slide timeline. The button itself does not execute the actions you have set in Quiz Preferences for what should happen if the user Succeeds or Fails the quiz. Those actions (as Lilybiri stated) are executed on the last frame of the Quiz Results slide as it moves to the next slide, NOT at the moment when you click the Continue button.

Report · Feb 16, 2018

Okay. That's fine. So, how do I get rid of it? Can I put in a custom button to replace it that will do what I want?

I want the people taking the course to advance beyond the final exam to print their certificate only after they've passed the final exam, and the continue button I cannot modify makes that somewhat...inconvenient.

Report · Feb 17, 2018

No you cannot take away the Continue button, but you can HIDE it by placing the Retake Quiz button right on top of it. That means that the end users won't be able to click the Continue button (because they cannot see it) until after the Retake Quiz button disappears, which will only happen when they pass the quiz.

Report · Feb 17, 2018

Since you allow only one attempt on Quiz level, you don't need the Retake button at all. It will not even appear, sorry Rod.

If I understand well what you want, you don't need a conditional action at all:. If you want to keep the default score slide

On Passing Grade you want to continue to the Next slide. Choose that option under Pass/Fail for the action 'If Passing Grade'. Since the Continue button still will first proceed to the end of the slide (that was the reason I proposed to drag the pausing point more towards the end), there will be only a very small waiting time.
If Failing Grade could be set to Pause. But I wouldn't like to be the learner, since he will not know what to do.

In both cases you want to hide the playbar, but you can do that On Enter for the slide.

Another approach would be to hide the score slide, create a custom score slide after the hidden slide using the system quizzing variables (see: Using Quizzing System Variables - Captivate blog ). You will have full control now. You will be able to create a custom button that can trigger a conditional advanced action similar to the one you posted, you can add text feedback etc. Apparently you are not using the Review feature neither.

Report · Feb 17, 2018

Oops. I missed that particular point.

But if the learners are only allowed one attempt, that seems a bit harsh to me.

Report · Feb 17, 2018

From one of Beowulf12's image it looks like learners do get further attempts, but only after exiting the course and restarting it. I'm rusty on LMS stuff, so I don't really remember why one might do that instead of just using the retake feature. To record how many times a learner failed before passing?

Report · Feb 17, 2018

There is one reason/situation where this can be a workaround: if there are random quiz or KC slides in the course. To get another set of random questions you need to restart the course.

Report · Feb 17, 2018

Oh, that makes sense!

Report · Feb 17, 2018

Lilybiri:

If Failing Grade could be set to Pause.

My goal is to disable the continue button unless the user has passed the quiz. This option does not work for me. If I choose this option in the Quiz Pass or Fail settings the user can still press the continue button and move forward even if they've failed the quiz. It's because of this result that I began experimenting with conditional actions.

And what you've said conflicts with what RodWard said:

"You cannot reprogram what the Continue button does. It is a special button object (nor a normal button) that only appears on the Quiz Result slide. It DOES simply continue the Quiz Result slide timeline. The button itself does not execute the actions you have set in Quiz Preferences for what should happen if the user Succeeds or Fails the quiz. Those actions (as Lilybiri stated) are executed on the last frame of the Quiz Results slide as it moves to the next slide, NOT at the moment when you click the Continue button."

So I am just a little confused.

"Another approach would be to hide the score slide, create a custom score slide after the hidden slide using the system quizzing variables (see: Using Quizzing System Variables - Captivate blog ). You will have full control now. You will be able to create a custom button that can trigger a conditional advanced action similar to the one you posted, you can add text feedback etc. Apparently you are not using the Review feature neither."

I am going to try this.

Report · Feb 17, 2018

There is no conflict with what Rod says, the slide will pause at the end of the slide. That conditional action has o sense if iti triggered by the Failure event, because tha part for Success will never happen, has to be on the Success event of the Quiz.

However your explanation is very confusing: you have only ONE attempt on quiz level, but now you say that you say that you don't want the user to click the Continue button until they pass, but if they have only one attempt, that is not possible!.

Give them infinite attempts on Quiz level, show the Retake button and drag the Continue button under the Retake button as Rod says.

Report · Feb 17, 2018

"There is no conflict with what Rod says, the slide will pause at the end of the slide. That conditional action has o sense if iti triggered by the Failure event, because tha part for Success will never happen, has to be on the Success event of the Quiz.

However your explanation is very confusing: you have only ONE attempt on quiz level, but now you say that you say that you don't want the user to click the Continue button until they pass, but if they have only one attempt, that is not possible!.

Give them infinite attempts on Quiz level, show the Retake button and drag the Continue button under the Retake button as Rod says."

Lilybiri, there is a continue button in the default quiz result template which I appear to not be able to remove or modify, and right now my sole concern is I just want the continue button to ....not continue to the next slide if someone fails the quiz.

I haven't made up my mind about how many times the user can take the quiz or retake the course, etc. Maybe I want to put a retake button over the Continue button and allow someone to retake the quiz 5 times or 100 times. Maybe I don't. Maybe I want the Continue button to wiggle around and do a dance. Maybe I don't. I don't know yet.

Report · Feb 17, 2018

Lilybiri,

Ok. I ditched the standard template and made my on quiz results slide.

I got it to do exactly what I want by following these instructions:

"Another approach would be to hide the score slide, create a custom score slide after the hidden slide using the system quizzing variables (see: Using Quizzing System Variables - Captivate blog ). You will have full control now. You will be able to create a custom button that can trigger a conditional advanced action similar to the one you posted, you can add text feedback etc. Apparently you are not using the Review feature neither."

Thank you for your time and effort.