OT: Websites from Fiverr.com

[Nancy OShea]

Paying People To Create $5 Websites On Fiverr - YouTube

I Paid $100 For a Website on Fiverr | LOOK AT WHAT I GOT - YouTube

[osgood_]

Well what was once considered skilled work has become cheap factory work, a lot don't have time or the finances to retrain to achieve the necesssry standards to jump to the next level, many just fail to make the expected grade to secure a more skilled position. Expectations and the skills required these days are much higher than in previous generations.

[pziecina]

osgood_  wrote

Well what was once considered skilled work has become cheap factory work, a lot don't have time or the finances to retrain to achieve the necesssry standards to jump to the next level, many just fail to make the expected grade to secure a more skilled position. Expectations and the skills required these days are much higher than in previous generations.

We all can think of excuses as to why people find it much harder these days.

The simple truth is that to many stop learning at a certain point in life, (for whatever reason) and don't look at what is happening or going to happen in the future in their chosen profession. This is especially true in professions that have grown from the web, and its requirements.

Code is just one part of the whole for commercial/enterprise sites/apps, but many small site designers/developers, (especially those relying just on frameworks and plug-ins) do not know or care what is happening or going to happen. You only have to go through posts in the Adobe forums, to see how far behind what is possible, or how it can be done that many people are.

[osgood_]

I think what I'm trying to express is that websites popping up like fiverr.com, automated process like wix, webflow, bubble, frameworks, cheap plugins of every conceivable shape and size etc have contributed to the demise of the web-developer that accepted they would never get beyond a certain point BUT still possesed enough skill to command a reasonable developing job. Not everyone can reach the holy-grail of their chosen career, a lot more fail than acheive that status.

Its a lot harder now than it ever was, not just in web-development, because of changing circumstances and the far greater skill expectations and requirements needed.

[pziecina]

osgood_  wrote

I think what I'm trying to express is that websites popping up like fiverr.com, automated process like wix, webflow, bubble, frameworks, cheap plugins of every conceivable shape and size etc have contributed to the demise of the web-developer that accepted they would never get beyond a certain point BUT still possesed enough skill to command a reasonable developing job. Not everyone can reach the holy-grail of their chosen career, a lot more fail than acheive that status.

Its a lot harder now than it ever was, not just in web-development, because of changing circumstances and the far greater skill expectations and requirements needed.

I can agree with your point about wix, etc. But should that be a reason to stop learning new things, and simply accept ones lot in life. I don't think so, which is why I think programs like Dw, (or any other web dev program) should also provide alternatives to quick and easy solutions like BS, and support specs A.S.A.P. and not just sit around doing nothing to help those looking to offer clients more, (to put it simply - offer developers more selling points to the client) as better options to wix, etc..

As for not reaching the holy grail in chosen career - I never made it to director, but I'm still happy, (good pension, riverside drinking, lazing in the sun or sitting in the shade reading a book, what more could I ask for, (except even more money, more sunshine, more wine or beer, some people are never satisfied )).

[osgood_]

pziecina  wrote

I can agree with your point about wix, etc. But should that be a reason to stop learning new things, and simply accept ones lot in life. I don't think so, which is why I think programs like Dw, (or any other web dev program) should also provide alternatives to quick and easy solutions like BS, and support specs A.S.A.P. and not just sit around doing nothing to help those looking to offer clients more, (to put it simply - offer developers more selling points to the client) as better options to wix, etc..

It doesn't help really as you over-saturate the market when everyone has access without having to acquire much skill or knowledge and that's the problem. It just means everyone, apart from the elite, is chasing a smaller and smaller piece of the cake, until such time as considering web-development as a career isn't necessarily an attractive option. You shouldnt stop learning I agree but given the numerous workflows and options available now where do you start and where do you draw the line before you're just in a constant cycle of learning, without it being of much benefit.