Server behaviours, DMXzone wishlist

[-Michele]

I know, this is an Adobe forum but... Adobe has removed server behaviours and killed InterAKT (Developer Toolbox) so I think that it's still a topic that could interests many DW's users.

WordPress is a great tool but I think that develop a website without a "ready to use" CMS is still the best way, the best web workflow (especially for corporate websites).

1. At the moment, DMXzone is the only company that offers a replacement of the old server behaviours but their extensions have many limitations.
   For example, isn't possible (or is very hard to understand how to do it) to set a simple "Show if the recordset is empty" and is necessary every time to open a ticket in the forum (great support but I'd like to do it alone and quickly).
2. The DMXzone forum is another big problem. It's impossible to save images (screenshots) and to see the whole activity in the forums, is necessary open each forum individually (... and many times it's hard to remember in which forum you have posted the requests). Please DMXzone, see for an example WebAssist; they offer a great forum system with the possibility to see quickly the whole activity of the last 24h, 3/7 days, etc.
3. Last thing, DMXzone offers too much extensions to do the same process (many times it's difficult to remember which extension must be installed by your marketplace). Please, create a single suite, as "ADDT" (Developer Toolbox) or DataAssist and remove the automatic update when you open a page (at least put a popup warning before updating).

What do you think?

Other DW users share my thoughts?
I would have liked to put this message on the DMXzone forum, but isn't available a section "general".

[Teodor K]

Hey guys,

i see somebody already found the Wappler website

Keep an eye on

https://wappler.io/

https://www.facebook.com/wappler.io/

https://twitter.com/wapplerio

as more announcements are coming up!

Best Regards,

Teodor Kuduschiev

DMXzone.com

[pziecina]

Providing you remember to support modern css, (unlike Dw) you will certainly have me for a user Teodor.

[-Michele]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Teodor+K  ha scritto

Hey guys,

i see somebody already found the Wappler website

Keep an eye on

https://wappler.io/

https://www.facebook.com/wappler.io/

https://twitter.com/wapplerio

as more announcements are coming up!

Best Regards,

Teodor Kuduschiev

DMXzone.com

(from Facebook/Twitter):
"The most powerful creativity-driven application in the world! Get ready to change your mindset!"

Teodor, please... give us an exclusive preview!

We promise that we don't say to anyone

[pziecina]

If Theodor did give more details, the speculation in this and other forums would be interesting to read.

The biggest ones would be regarding the future of Dw. So maybe it is not a good idea to say anything at this point. For me i hope Dw becomes more of a developers environment, and the dmx's 'secret' project would be aimed more at the visual user who wishes to build dynamic sites, (or maybe the other way around).

[-Michele]

I just hope that it's not a cloud-based service (no further monthly/annual subscriptions).

A powerful and intuitive tool/app to build easily and quickly advanced dynamic sites (how it was "Developer Toolbox"), but hosted on the own hosting plan (and included in the current annual/monthly DMXzone subscription).

[pziecina]

I agree that it should not be a subscription base service, as that is one of the major items i think is stifling development of Dw.

I don't think it should be tied to a hosting plan though, as this would be too limiting for many potential users, and lets be honest, anyone wishing to develop a dynamic site would not want to bother with something that limits their options.

[-Michele]

pziecina  ha scritto

I don't think it should be tied to a hosting plan though, as this would be too limiting for many potential users, and lets be honest, anyone wishing to develop a dynamic site would not want to bother with something that limits their options.

I think the model to be taken as a comparison are "WordPress" (for the development) and "Themeforest" (for the "creativity").

My customers want to pay for something that remains available on their servers (and pay only once, when the work is delivered/completed), without the nightmare of interruptions, closures (very high when companies are small, such as DMXzone) or price changes over the years (typical of cloud services).

[Teodor K]

Just to clarify here, this is not related and won't include/offer any hosting services, or cloud-based services.

You will understand really really soon, what the 'secret' is

Best Regards,

Teodor Kuduschiev

DMXzone.com

[osgood_]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Teodor+K  wrote

Just to clarify here, this is not related and won't include/offer any hosting services, or cloud-based services.

You will understand really really soon, what the 'secret' is

Best Regards,

Teodor Kuduschiev

DMXzone.com

Well I need something new to muse over..........so hurry up about it if you can please. I'm dying of boredom here just lately.

[Teodor K]

Hello again,

We are ready to announce the 'secret' we've been working on in the past months. You can learn more on our website: https://www.dmxzone.com/go/33041/join-the-revolution-wappler-is-coming-up

Best Regards,

Teodor Kuduschiev

DMXzone.com

[pziecina]

Thank you Teodor, and here was i thinking that it was just me that thought Dw was becomming a web development tool of the past, and modern web requirerments were being ignored.

As you know i do not require a visual ui, but i have also though that Dw was no longer for the coder either.

Will be interesting to actually see if what you think is missing from Dw for those requirering a more visual ui, agree, (or hopefully surpass) with mine

[-Michele]

From the DMXzone's announcement:

"Adobe Dreamweaver is turning more and more into a tool for hardcore coders and loosing its well-known visual abilities. It's also a truth that Dreamweaver's development has being way behind the latest web or mobile app developments."

I think they are absolutely right!

If Adobe doesn't change something quickly in the development of Dreamweaver, the future of this historic Macromedia's software is destined to an inevitable death.

I just hope that Adobe does not decide to buy DMXzone and make it die as it did years ago with Interakt

[pziecina]

-Michele  wrote

From the DMXzone's announcement:

"Adobe Dreamweaver is turning more and more into a tool for hardcore coders and loosing its well-known visual abilities. It's also a truth that Dreamweaver's development has being way behind the latest web or mobile app developments."

As i have said previously Dw is not for hard core developers, more for a specific user, (still trying to work out who that user is). I do agree with the statement that Dw is way behind what is required for the latest web development requirerments, which does sort of prove it is not for the hardcore coder.

-Michele  wrote

I think they are absolutely right!

If Adobe doesn't change something quickly in the development of Dreamweaver, the future of this historic Macromedia's software is destined to an inevitable death.

The problem with Dw is that many of the CS version did not offer anything that was not simply following the latest trends, which quickly made it redundant for everyone who did not cater for the quick and dirty site builder. What made things worse was that CS6 was i think the version that did try to offer more than simply what had gone before.

The CC versions unfortunatly ended up being stuck in limbo, in that they attempted to make it a visual site creation tool, but completely forgot the mobile web or any future requirerments, except in a most basic way.

As i have said before the only way to change things is if many more users join the pre-release, or even better try to get accepted for the CAB group. I left both groups for various reasons, and now that  Teodor has anounced this latest project, it would appear he has also finally decided Dw has serious problems with Dw's future and the none represented users requirerments.

[-Michele]

Great idea Teodor, but before I have to understand how much the service will cost (I don't think it will be free).

Honestly I think that Dreamweaver with the latest versions (especially with the 2017) has taken the wrong path and the decision to no longer integrate a visual development tool (as it was with Adobe Developer Toolbox) or simply to update the "Server Behaviours", has made its use completely useless (there are a lot of free html/css editors open source much better than Dreamweaver).

The only reason I haven't left Dreamweaver yet, are the PVII extensions.