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B i r n o u
Legend
November 4, 2018

as in all disciplines, no one will contradict the fact that basic tools and techniques remain the only safe values to be learned and mastered.

here in france we have an old school called compagnonnage which trains all the best workers in france in a large number of disciplines.

However, not everyone can become a companion, the journey is long, demanding, and difficult... it requires a lot of self-sacrifice, time and rigour.

and that's the way it is for everything... most of us love code and try to produce quality applications, which can last, evolve and adapt to new interfaces and needs...

Fortunately, a large number of tools sometimes allow us to get to the heart of the needs more quickly in order to minimize production costs.

necessarily not all the tools will be unanimously accepted and very often some tools disappear as quickly as they appeared.

surround yourself with a good box of tools and often a guarantee of subjectivity and remains a compromise between needs, adaptability, skills and possibilities of alternatives...

What is certain is that the web must be accessible to as many people as possible... both in consultation and in the production and supply of content... and as in real life, no virtual, there are vegetables that grow in the ground, without chemical fertilizers, without pesticides, and in their original seasons... and then there is the mass consumption that allows strawberries to be eaten in winter and that have travelled much more kilometres than all those gathered around the table to eat them will do...

guess how I feed myself, and guess what I think of the code...?....... you found it?

well I find that wordpress, bootstrap, enablewebdesign and many others who will always be criticized... have just as many reasons to be and to be available to everyone... the essential thing in the end is that content can emerge from all this and that information can be produced... at least there we know that the earth will not be destroyed, that the water will not be polluted and that everyone, author, as reader could find his or her benefit... even the critics...

B i r n o u
Legend
November 4, 2018

I think the subject is getting lost....

the question, at least as I perceived it... is not whether the site hosting the content is technically laudable and well made... but whether the content distributed there makes sense...

you can always try to split your hair in four and define the squaring of the circle.... as Nancy said, we are talking about content and not support.

Legend
November 2, 2018

Needs to concentrate on the coding side a bit more..........yikes.........how many stylesheets does a website need. This is what your automated processes, in this case Wordpress, create for you....a pile of poo.

<link rel='stylesheet' id='wp-color-picker-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/qiksw5r5/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='grw_css-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/6nd3o8r5/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='n10s-content-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/dj3po51m/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='divi-fontawesome-gtm-custom-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/d4b7jc8h/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='normalize_css-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/eh1s6zu8/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='custom_style_css-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/g39rtyl3/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='siq_icon_css-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/2cwzxeu1/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='siq_front_css-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/7a9bppj7/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='wp-pagenavi-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/diicfr4a/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='sb_mod_menu_css-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/e700ng78/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='et_monarch-css-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/31dusre5/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='et-gf-open-sans-csshref='https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans:400,700' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='et-builder-googlefonts-cached-csshref='https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Nunito+Sans%3A200%2C200italic%2C300%2C300italic%2Cregular%2Citalic%2C600%2C600italic%2C700%2C700italic%2C800%2C800italic%2C900%2C900italic%7CLato%3A100%2C100italic%2C300%2C300italic%2Cregular%2Citalic%2C700%2C700italic%2C900%2C900italic&#038;ver=4.9.8#038;subset=vietnamese,latin,latin-ext' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='jquery-lazyloadxt-spinner-css-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/2dw1ahf8/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='a3a3_lazy_load-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/d32p3x9f/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='dashicons-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/ftbz2b20/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='chi-dmm-css-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/jr6whmnw/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='parent-theme-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/1eu9xen1/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='child-theme-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/ffb7e1ug/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='agsdcm-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/mcjq31eb/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='ts_owl-carousel-css-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/mcnl83l8/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

<link rel='stylesheet' id='ts_font-awesome-css-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/fs28lmd5/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

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<link rel='stylesheet' id='ts_widget_style-csshref='//enablewebdesign.com/wp-content/cache/wpfc-minified/mkw0693c/5qzva.css' type='text/css' media='all' />

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pziecina
Legend
November 2, 2018

Which only goes to prove that if internet connection speeds had not increased dramatically over the last 10 years, (depending on where one lives) many website visits would be abandoned before they had loaded, due to excessive file sizes.

However, I think Nancy was pointing out that some knowledge of good design principles are essential, which I agree with. One thing that the article does not point out though, is that the requirements of the target user can change general design principles.

Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 2, 2018

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Nancy+OShea  wrote

osgood_   wrote

Sure, I was just pointing out the webpage seems to have abandoned any attempt at acceptable coding practices....

Jeeze Louise, osgood!  The soapbox again?   It's a blog article.  And like most blogs it's running on a popular blogging platform the same as CSS Tricks, SitePoint and others....  

27 stylesheet links, I lost count after that.............you think that is acceptable. I don't and I don't give a toss what the page is running on, it's complete crap and utter garbage. WTF is wrong with the web-devlopment world these days...........it's being infiltrated by complete amatuers who have zero understanding, pride or any kind of committment in what they do or produce.

This blogger might be seriously cocerned about the visual aspect of producing a website and feels the need to inform everyone - its just a pity they weren't as concerned about the tools they use or choose to build the blog/website.

Its NOT just a blog either, the whole website is structured the same way.


The difference between us:

I  open a book and read the story. 

You open a book and critique the book binder.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert