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Facebook Mentions live stream video with black screen

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Mar 29, 2016 Mar 29, 2016

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I have trouble with Facebook live stream video, it always display black screen with sound... I checked help on Facebook : My video loads but just looks like a black screen with sound.  Why? | Facebook Help Community | Face...

But those solution is not helpful for me and I only have trouble when I play with Facebook's live stream, other website are all working fine.

However, I am able the view the live stream video after the live stream end and encoded to normal video, it's so weird that I am not able to view it when it "LIVE" ...

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Adobe-Mitarbeiter ,
Apr 06, 2016 Apr 06, 2016

We've seen a couple people report this through the Mozilla bugbase, but we haven't been able to reproduce it on comparable systems.

Please work through the video troubleshooting guide.

https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/video-playback-issues.html

I'm really curious to know if disabling hardware acceleration resolves this for you.

Let me know how that works out, and we'll try and get the underlying driver problems resolved, or try something else to narrow down why this is happening.

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Apr 08, 2016 Apr 08, 2016

I have tried " disabling hardware acceleration" , however, it not working for me.

I checked out the video troubleshooting guide already, before I am asking this question, I am able to view all the video samples, and all working fine, and also other website live streaming are all working fine.

I am able the view Facebook Mentions live stream video before the flash player updated, but I am not sure when did it happened and not allow my system to play it back live, but I can play it after the live video finished encoding become a video.

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Adobe-Mitarbeiter ,
Apr 08, 2016 Apr 08, 2016

If it's not a video issue, then I'm leaning towards either firewall configuration (they're using a port that isn't allowed on your network/machine), or maybe you're running something like an ad-blocker/anti-tracking/privacy plug-in that's problematic.  We've tested this scenario on a few of our machines already and it works fine, so now it's an exercise in finding the common denominator.

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Apr 09, 2016 Apr 09, 2016

I have done everything, cleared cache, disabled accelerator, no sites to add to 10mb, deleted flash player in both folders, disabled ad blocker even though it did this before I enabled it. Uninstalled Flash Player, logout, login and reinstall Flash player and yes it was and is the latest version.I have Firefox, the audio portion works fine black screen.

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Apr 09, 2016 Apr 09, 2016

I have the same issue, did all listed and no help

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Neu hier ,
Apr 19, 2016 Apr 19, 2016

I have the same issue. Used to work, but since some weeks:

- Flash videos play just fine, on every website. Same for playing back Facebook Mentions videos that already have been recorded and saved (that is, NOT live).

- LIVE Facebook mentions videos only play sounds but they show a black picture. Once LIVE broadcasting ends and they get saved, they play just fine.

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Adobe-Mitarbeiter ,
Apr 19, 2016 Apr 19, 2016

Yeah, the live video stream is served up with different protocols and methodologies, so it's not surprising that the live stream differs from the pre-recorded stream.  The problem that's making it hard to track down is that it only appears to be broken for a small subset of people, and we haven't been able to reproduce it.

It would be helpful for me to collect the dxdiag output (see my post above about the video troubleshooting guide) from a few people to see if I can spot a pattern, or at least find a comparable machine.  It would also be interesting to know if the problem goes away when you disable hardware acceleration.

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Neu hier ,
Apr 19, 2016 Apr 19, 2016

I already reported that disabling hardware acceleration didn't fix it

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Adobe-Mitarbeiter ,
Apr 19, 2016 Apr 19, 2016

You're not the only person on the thread.  Also, a dxdiag would still be valuable in terms of helping me find a comparable system.

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Apr 19, 2016 Apr 19, 2016

If I copy and paste the info here is there anything unsafe in there? I have the dx log

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Adobe-Mitarbeiter ,
Apr 19, 2016 Apr 19, 2016

Not really, no.  If you'd prefer, you're welcome to send it in a private message.  Just click my username.

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Apr 19, 2016 Apr 19, 2016

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Adobe-Mitarbeiter ,
Apr 19, 2016 Apr 19, 2016

Okay, thanks.  In the other instance where someone was reporting this on a similar nVidia card, disabling hardware acceleration resolved it.  It's clearly something going on with video decoding/rendering.  It's interesting that it's not working in your case.

Are you seeing the problem on multiple browsers?  If you right-click on the video that's not rendering, does it say About Flash Player in the context menu?  If so, what's the version listed?

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Apr 19, 2016 Apr 19, 2016

It does it in both Firefox and Internet explorer. I will check a video for version. Right now if I select a working one "about" isn't available.

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Adobe-Mitarbeiter ,
Apr 19, 2016 Apr 19, 2016

I'm specifically curious about what happens when you right-click the black rectangle on a live stream where the video isn't playing but the audio is.  Do you just get the standard browser context menu that you get when you right-click on HTML content?  I'm kind of wondering if they're doing A/B testing between HTML and Flash video playback, which is why we're seeing the weird intermittent behavior.

If you disable hardware acceleration in the browser itself, does that solve the playback problem?

(Chrome > Settings > Advanced Settings > System > Use hardware acceleration where available)

or in Firefox, just enter:

about:preferences#advanced and uncheck Use hardware acceleration where available

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Apr 20, 2016 Apr 20, 2016

I have sent you a PM about the dxdiag log. I too have a nVidia video card, with the latest 64 bit drivers.

I have noticed something that could help your "A/B testing": sometimes the Facebook mentions are streamed using Flash, some times they aren't. I guess Flash is used because some video sizes are not natively supported by the browser and Flash "fills the gap".

Anyway, the browser native mentions get streamed correctly, I can see both audio and video. If I right click on them I see a very reduced menu, similar to using the native HTML5 embedded player.

Flash mentions, instead, appear as black video, audio may be heard. If I right click on them I get the typical Flash menu, including settings. Playing with those settings did not help though.

Another anomaly - I don't know if it's related or not - is that after a couple of hours browser usage, flash videos start to stutter A LOT and become a slide show, expecially with some streaming TV players. Native videos stay "fast". I had to disable "protected mode" (Firefox) to fix that. I am very uncomfortable with that, because I guess I am going to be REALLY vulnerable to zero day Flash bugs exploits.

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Adobe-Mitarbeiter ,
Apr 20, 2016 Apr 20, 2016

Yeah, disabling protected mode is a bad idea.  You're way better off switching to 64-bit Firefox, which provides a native NPAPI sandbox.  The performance issue would be interesting to look at as well, but I don't want to get too sidetracked in this thread.

You can download a copy of 64-bit Firefox here:

Mozilla Firefox Web Browser — Download Firefox in your language — Mozilla

If you disable Hardware Acceleration, do the problem videos work for you?

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Apr 21, 2016 Apr 21, 2016

Disabling hardware Acceleration in the Flash settings? No, it changed nothing.

About Firefox 64 bit, it looks like a good idea. But how's the plugins support? I use several and need them (I am a software developer), I'd hate to be unable to do anything because they only work on the 32 bit version.

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Adobe-Mitarbeiter ,
Apr 21, 2016 Apr 21, 2016

You'll have to play around with it.  The plugin developers do have to target 64-bit systems. 

The native NPAPI sandbox in 64-bit Firefox eliminates a number of intermediary Flash processes (we had to bolt a sandbox on to the wrong side of the NPAPI interface in 32-bit Firefox), and cuts down the overall amount of IPC messaging.  This solved a lot of the pervasive intermittent hangs.  The spare address space in 64-bit also makes it much more difficult to predictably align memory in ways that allow malware to compromise the system.

You *can* install multiple Firefox versions in parallel.  I'd highly recommend the 64-bit version for general browsing for both performance and security reasons.  The sandboxes are basically the same, except 64-bit is implemented the right way from an architectural perspective.  The sparse address space is a huge win in terms of defense.

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Adobe-Mitarbeiter ,
Apr 21, 2016 Apr 21, 2016

For the folks that sent over dxdiags, thanks.  That was very helpful.  Here's what I'm seeing.

If it was purely a thing where Flash consistently falls back to software (we publish clear guidelines on how to stream video effectively to Flash) and the software codec doesn't like their encoding scheme, it would be easily reproducible in our labs.  The folks working on Flash content at Facebook are savvy, and I don't believe that this scenario is what's going on.

Here are the data points that I'm seeing at the moment:

  • we can't reproduce it across several machines and testers across two disparate geographies in our labs
  • reporters get audio but not video, so they're getting a stream -- it's not a firewall problem or something
  • hardware acceleration isn't the problem (old/buggy drivers are the source of 99% of this kind of video decoding pain)
  • the software codec that's used when hardware is disabled has been around for ~10 years, is *very* forgiving, and is easy for content providers to test
  • facebook eningeering isn't escalating the problem to us

Tech companies tend to end up near each other, and we're located in geographic regions near Facebook's campuses.  It may be that things work better towards the core of the network, and less so as video is distributed to nodes farther away in their content delivery network.  Delivering live video to huge populations of users is really, really hard.

I've been doing this a long time, and it really feels like a problem on the server side.  Until we can reproduce it under a C++ debugger, we're just guessing though.  I was hoping that it was just that we weren't testing on the right GPU, but since it's independent of hardware, something else is in play.

We'll continue to play with it and try to establish a reproducible case, but I'm not sure that the assumption that this is a Flash problem is necessarily accurate.  Given that this isn't a straightforward problem, the most expedient path to a resolution would be for Facebook engineers to investigate the video playback failures, identify a root-cause, and escalate the low-level issue to us, should they identify a behavior in Flash that's problematic.  Like you, we're only able to see the public-facing edges of their video service.  They have end-to-end visibility.  Naturally, we're more than happy to provide whatever technical assistance would be useful to Facebook engineers, and they're more than welcome to reach out through the established business channels, or contact me directly (just click my username) if that's easier, and I'll get a formal dialog going with our engineering team.

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Apr 21, 2016 Apr 21, 2016

I have this same exact problem over three computers - all three have the latest flash and firefox.

One computer is Windows 7 having a nvida video card

Another computer is Windows 10 having a nivida video card

last computer is Windows 10 and uses Intel 5500 graphics

I did everything here.. disable hardware acceleration and install firefox 64 bit...still nothing

It used to work fine...I say probably around mid February to early March it broke.

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Apr 25, 2016 Apr 25, 2016

I have installed Firefox 64 bit as suggested. However it worsened the situation! No I cannot see NOR hear Facebook mentions at all!

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Adobe-Mitarbeiter ,
Apr 25, 2016 Apr 25, 2016

Hmm.  Is Flash actually working in the new Firefox installation?

https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html

If not, you may need to uninstall and reinstall Flash Player:

Uninstall Flash Player - Windows:

https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-windows.html

Flash Player Download:

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

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Apr 26, 2016 Apr 26, 2016

I get this response:

Your Flash Version

21.0.0.213

Your browser name

Firefox (NPAPI)

Your Operating System (OS)

Windows (Window 10)

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