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It's bad enough we have to endure your endless updates but when you try and trick users into installing McAfee AV its a sign that you've lost the plot.
I've been in IT for 25 years and seen many companies come and go. Goodbye Abode, you deserve to die.
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Dangit, they got me this time. I got too careless and I got infected with mcafee.
Whelp, time to reformat my machine.
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First of all, FORGET Adobe! Go to Firefox "Help" Forums & ask this question. I had a problem installing flash on Firefox. Posted on both Adobe & Firefox forums. Firefox fixed it right away.
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Why does Adobe continue to set the default option for downloading Flash player to include McAfee security scan plus.?
Yes the option is there to untick but many people do not see this. I am an IT manager and this causes countless problems with performance. ADOBE please listen to your customers and DO NOT include mcaffee. This is very frustrating!!!
What is the rationale for including this??
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As popkorn said, "Your process is flawed and borderline fraudulent."
Not only is this action fraudulent, it proves Adobe's greed and carelessness.
Your Flash Player team must've been told to release updates in minute increments so as to retain profits when if your programming weren't so pathetic
you could easily release maybe one update per year-- instead you need to update often because you fail to properly program. And I doubt you can blame
this on Microsoft or Firefox, et.al..
I just experienced the McAfee install-- mine said pending and then never gave me the option to NOT install it. What kind of f*ckuppery are you practicing Adobe?
It makes sense that you are too weak to respond here, in your own forum.
Some of us are savvy enough to know when something like this occurs but obviously you don't care about most people who may not notice.
I hope everybody here reads brian47's great comments too-- Adobe you are weak.
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You have said what everyone is thinking well done.
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OP is 100% totally correct. There is no excuse for this crap. Diable the option by default. I don't have time for this and I see now why Apple is blocking flash.
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It is now 2 years and 4 months later and I just experienced the same issue. I clicked to download the update, my browser opened and loaded a step-by-step page from Adobe, while immediately the update .exe AND McAfee installers were downloading simultaneously. I carefully checked all active tabs, but there was only one Adobe webpage opened without any choices or checkboxes.
I only have one explanation for this: somehow, when clicking "download" you agree (or agreed in the past by installing the first version of this software) that Adobe is allowed to install what they want on your computer, if you like it or not. If true, and no, I'm not going through the terms and conditions (it is already bordeline madness that I have to login to this page to express my very, very disappointed feelings towards this bad practice), I abhorr this practice and will reconsider future purchases towards Adobe software.
All in all, this whole process of finding out someone (Adobe) messes around with your PC, finding out whether this is normal (it seems so) and expressing my concerns here, took a considerable amount of very expensive time, which is lost forever. I could better have spent that time to find out whether this practice is prohibited or allowed by law, which I doubt very much.
Thanks but no thanks. Beware.
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And again. Not asked, no options and again this unwanted malware from Mcafee on my working system. And again it screws up with my other security scanner. And again the computer locks up when trying to remove that software. And again the task list is filled up with dozens of tasks that will slow the computer down to 20% speed. And again the program refuses to uninstall several times. Only way to get rid of it was a rollback to former restore point. And again this has hit a lot of our systems in all our locations spread all over the world. And again our trouble ticket system is flooded with complaints.
Usually i'm a real true adobe fanatic.
But as this is ongoing now for years, and Adobe obviously does not understand, that the overwhelming majority of Flash Player users do NOT WANT to be confronted with undesired malware installations, we have now decided to remove Adobe Flash player and all kind of Mcafee Software from all our over 20.000 computer systems worldwide. Further all Adobe websites, according IP addresses connected to Adobe and Mcafee are now blocked by our firewalls and our content filtering will not allow anything that contains those company names. The use of Adobe and Mcafee products is now explicitly forbidden. That is the result of such behavior.
We all know what happened to Yahoo, when they started to breach into systems and configure themselves like usually only malware does. Look at their stocks. Right. They are losing and losing and losing value. Are you definitely convinced that you and your products are that important and there is no alternative?
You just lost a worldwide company as your customer. We aren't the first. We aren't the last. Congratulations. Give us a call when you decide to start acting professional again. Or no. Wait. We call you, when we think you do.
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Btw we have also now called Mcafee Germany and told them that we are removing them as our supplier for our hard disk encryption and they are not considered in future deliveries of the product. They were like shocked and asking why we have decided so. The answer was obvious: "Regarding this continually installation of software over updates from Adobe with a malware-like behavior and style which just caused us over 200 hrs of IT support. We are not going to support this very unprofessional business style. So we are going to remove any kind of McAfee software and change to a professional supplier."
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If you are a large enterprise, why don't you distribute Flash Player (and Adobe Reader) centrally, with the installers that do not contain any bundled 3rd-party crapware?
You can download the offline installers from
or from https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html if you have a distribution agreement with Adobe.
It's definitely easier and cheaper than having users installing the plugins themselves, then spending "over 200 hrs of IT support" to remove the crap they have installed.
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Shame on you Adobe. Users are obligated to install Adobe's software to view web pages correctly, not because they want to. You have no right to slip this McAfee crap on users that didn't ask for it. I believe it's criminal. Unfortunately you're big money and we're just the little pee-on users. Shame on you for your unethical practices. Next you've got your users forced into your cloud based applications (Creative Suite etc.). I hope your former customers discover an alternative so you can get what you deserve for your slimy business practices. I don't like your style - and I used to respect you.
Rob
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One more profanity-laced post from you, and I will have you banned from this forum.
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At first I thought you were talking about me, but I didn't use any profanity. I felt like it, but resisted. I've probably had this discussion with at least a dozen people, but whatever marketing genius at Adobe thought this one up should be hanged.This has to be one of the dumbest tactics possible for a company traditionally held in high regard. Did they really think anyone would like this.
Very stupid marketing!
Rob
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My remarks were directed at David Peters who's post is now hidden from view.
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This is a de-profanitized version of my post:
Entirely rightfully that Adobe Flash **** now is officially classified as malware by Microsoft.
So even if I'd wanted to install those weekly **** Flash **** upgrades which every time
....in order just to install that umpteenth ******* weekly ******* Flash **** update.
So even if I'd wanted to do all that ********* annoying **** like every week (which I ******* don't):
Now I even can't do it anymore:
Adobe, go **** *** with your ********* bloatware, with your ********* forum software, and with your ********* Flash downloader malware installer piece of **** ****.
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Nobody "forces" you to do anything. If you hate that McAfee thing so much (as I do, b.t.w.), why not just use the offline installer that is not bundled with any 3rd-party software? The links are published daily in this forum, including in this very topic.
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So how many of the 2 billion Adobe Flash users do you think look up "this forum", find this thread, know what an "offline installer" is, find the links, download the correct version ******* weekly, and succeed in installing?
What's more, you don't seem to realize that what my screenshot says is that Microsoft Windows blocks not the McAfee crapware --- it blocks Adobe System Incorporated as publisher, for security reasons.
The exact same warning comes up with your "offline installer":
What the box says is:
"The execution of software on the computer has been blocked for this publisher.
Publisher: Adobe System Incorporated"
Judging from the abusive Flash distribution practice of Adobe that includes additional crapware installation by default, this classification of Adobe System Incorporated as "security risk" by Microsoft however is entirelly rightfully.
You have been abusing your users for years by distributing that McMonkey crapware and trying to force-install it on us users computers -- now you earn what you deserve: your company is being classified as "security risk" by Microsoft.
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Danke, ich kann auch deutsch lesen.
But your tirade is entirely directed at the wrong people: the executives who make these decisions do not read this forum, and the Adobe tech staff in this forum have absolutely no power to change that policy.
Regarding the blocking of the Flash Player installer; I have no idea who or what is blocking it. It does not happen on any of my Windows 7 or XP systems. So it's not Microsoft.
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P.S. I am off now: Feierabend hier in Japan.
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Whose decision was it anyway to pack flash player updates with such *censored* antivirus? Those scrooges over in McAfee must have turned their pockets inside out on this one...
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In Europe there is legislation against automatically ticking boxes to install 3rd party software.
Maybe the U.S.A. should follow suite on the matter. That is the number 1 cause of unwanted programs and malware
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Dear McAfee, I have personally found your software to operate insufficiently. I tried your anti virus before, and repeatedly became infected. It didn't take me long to learn my lesson. If you have become this desperate, what does that say about the quality of your software? Did you think we would be too stupid to figure that out? I think you are on your way out. Please go gracefully.
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Hi David.G.P,
The blocked publisher error is a configuration setting on your computer. To fix this, please do the following:
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Maria
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SHAME...SHAME...SHAME...SHAME...SHAME...
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The McAfee nonsense has always bugged me but this latest update suggests you have reached new heights of incompetence. I've been trying to update for the past few days to version 18.0.0.194 or whatever it is but kept getting a connection error within the installer. After wondering why the hell we need an installer in the first place, a thought occurred to me: I wonder what happens if I opt in for the McAfee ****ware. I check the box, run the installer and lo and behold, the download begins and flash installs.... along with McAfee of course.
Now what the hell is that about? Are you guys a bunch of dicks or just incompetent?
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