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_Mats_Broberg_
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November 3, 2008
Question

Anchored frame that is run-around AND protrudes into margin?

  • November 3, 2008
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Hi,

FM 8.04, Win XP.

Is it in any way possible to create a small anchored frame (let's say 10 x 10 mm) that is run-around AND protrudes 1 or 2 mm into the left margin?

I need it for drop caps and have managed everything except the protrusion into the margin.

I can get protrusion into the margin by setting the anchored frame to "Outside column" or "Outside text frame" and then setting a negative value for "Distance from text column" - but then it isn't run around by the body text (despite inserting a text frame into the anchored frame and changing run-around properties).

Any ideas?

TIA,
Mats
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    Anonymous
    November 4, 2008
    In case it matters for online viewing of the PDF, the downside of using graphic or anchored frames for drop caps is that the full word is not searchable because it's not a single string in the PDF.
    Arnis Gubins
    Arnis Gubins
    Inspiring
    November 4, 2008
    FWIW, a way to overcome the search inability is to set the frame
    background to white and position it such that it covers the first
    character of the word that is being drop-capped. This way you still
    have the entire word for searching, but the first letter is hidden by
    the opaque background and you only see the drop cap.
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    _Mats_Broberg_Author
    Known Participant
    November 4, 2008
    Hi,

    I suspected this. Will opt for the second alternative, after editing is finished.

    Thanks,
    Mats
    Arnis Gubins
    Arnis Gubins
    Inspiring
    November 3, 2008
    Mats,

    Unfortunately, you're hitting the limits of anchored frame behaviour.
    It's an either/or proposition. You can have run-arounds, but you can't
    control the position except for placement at the start or end of a
    paragraph.

    An alternative, but clumsy and labour-intensive, is to set the start
    positions (indents - first & left) of all of the document paratags to
    be the desired offset (1-2mm) of the anchored frame. Then by setting
    the frame to start at the beginning of the anchoring paratag (not set
    with the indents), you will get the equivalent effect.

    If this is just going to be a single location and won't be subject to
    much editing (i.e. document reflow), then you could also consider
    using a graphic frame set with runaround, which you can position
    anywhere.
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