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Caption with graphic keeps going to next page, for no discernable reason.

Contributor ,
Dec 06, 2024 Dec 06, 2024

I have had this problem several times, and the only way I've been able to solve it is in the Ancored Frame menu:

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and selecting "page."

 

So here is a graphic with no caption on page 28, because for no reason, the caption has jumped to the next page. I've tried shrinking the graphic to the size of a pea, and there is PLENTY of space on the page for the caption, but it STILL jumps to the next page!

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And here is the caption on the next page:

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How do I fix this?

 

 

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Community Expert , Dec 09, 2024 Dec 09, 2024

There are any number of ways to accomplish caption-below-figure in FM. The simple an obvious one, Anchored Frame above current paragraph, does not exist. So here's one way to do it. This example presumes that what's desired are centered figures & captions.


Two task-specific Paragraph Formats are needed, arbitrarily named: FigureAnchor and Caption.
For the test I ran, these were derived from the current Body format, with the following differences:

 

¶FigureAnchor:
/Basic\
Alignment: Center
☑ Next Par

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Community Expert , Dec 10, 2024 Dec 10, 2024

Hi Susan,

I have a different approach for figure captions than Bob. It works always and it is very stable! You will put the figure into a table with only a single cell (means one row and one column). The figure title is the table title of this title.

In a separate anchor paragraph create a table with a single row and a single column. Set the width to the width of your main text frame. Set the table title to below (or above, as you like) the table.

In the table title set the paragraph format to t

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Community Expert , Dec 10, 2024 Dec 10, 2024

I think there is some terminology confusion and I believe you may not have turned on text symbols.

 

In order to work with anchored frames:

  1. Go to View and turn on "Text Symbols". This will display all the typographic markup and also the frame anchor.
  2. Put your cursor in an empty paragraph
  3. Click Insert->Anchored Frame and this dialogue will pop up. These settings are the most common for inserting an anchored frame
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  5. Click "New Frame" This is what the frame anchor looks like. If you select it by
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Community Expert , Dec 11, 2024 Dec 11, 2024

By accessability he means the use of screen readers. You can have a pdf document read aloud to you by using a screen reader. Creating documents that the screen reader software can understand and read correctly, can be challenging sometimes. The software can not "see" a graphic in a document. It needs to be told, that there is a graphic and you need to tell the reader what the graphic shows. A screen reader reads the text from one end to another, but if it encounters a table with a number of colu

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Contributor ,
Dec 11, 2024 Dec 11, 2024

I work in such a specialized field that sometimes I forget about the needs of the world at large, including allowing for the document to be read aloud.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 11, 2024 Dec 11, 2024

Susan: You guys are talking WAY over my head. 

That was the subtext of my summary on my Table approach.

re: Is this a forum for programmers?

FM has numerous arcane features that can be exploited (e.g. maker.ini hacks, AMP), some of which are coding-like. And then the most recent forum re-org resulted in the formerly separate Structured & Scripting topics being heaved into a general FM forum. So yes, in addition to the normal FM obscuranta, there's a lot of actual programming chat.

re: What do you mean by accessibily?
Reasonable question. I presume it means that using a Table approach somehow complicates making the content Section 508 compliant (if that's a consideration in the workflow).

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Community Expert ,
Dec 10, 2024 Dec 10, 2024

I suggest you pick up Matt R. Sullivan's Publishing Fundamentals and his other one on managing content - they are like the bibles of FM.

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Contributor ,
Dec 10, 2024 Dec 10, 2024

I will look for that. Thank you.

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Dec 11, 2024 Dec 11, 2024
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Ordered.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 11, 2024 Dec 11, 2024

You might want to take a look at FrameMaker - Working with Content

It's one version back of the current version, but FrameMaker hasn't changed much in the last 5 or 6 versions.

 

Oh, and placing captions above figures easily eliminates just about all of your frustration around page breaks. It also creates more intuitive links in PDF and HTML output.

 

-Matt Sullivan
FrameMaker Course Creator, Author, Trainer, Consultant
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