Change Bars

[lsk2002]

How can I make a change bar down along the side of a figure or table that is center across columns. I have no problem when the figure or table is inside the column even with two column documents. I have tried "across all columns" with two columns and with a side head column with no luck. I have also tried the different positions that the change bars can be placed. It will only place the change bar where the figure or table is anchored.  I have some examples if needed.

Thanks,

ls

[lsk2002]

Found the answer....!!!

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[lsk2002 · Accepted solution]

After playing around with it, I went to a one column document to see if it would work there. Of course I was importing paragraph tags from

a document with side heads, so everytime I would try to do anything I would get an error message about side heads.

Anyway, you have to make sure that from the anchor down past the figure and paragraph tag after the figure is set up to be across all columns and/or columns and sideheads. Hightlight from the anchor of the figure, all the way through the figure tag/or spacer tag and click on the change bar radio button and it will make the change bar down the whole side of all. It also works if a figure is set up in a table, but you need a body/spacer tag after the table for it to highlight the whole thing. I couldn't get it to work on a regular table. I had to highlight the table cells for the change bars to show up. I would like for the change bar beside a table to be a complete line, but we haven't found a way to get it to do that. They just correlate with the cells. (Which is fine, at least we can get them there now...lol.)

Hope that helps someone!!

ls

[lsk2002]

Just to let you know....I don't know why I couldn't get the table change bar to work yesterday. But....I did it today, and again, by adding a paratag after the table and making sure to highlight through that tag, I got a complete change bar line down the side of the table. Yea!!

ls

[chrisf50576945]

I know it's ten years later -- but I wanted to say that the tables and change bars in Framemaker haven't really changed since the time of this 2009 post, and I was having the same exact problem in 2020....and lsk2002's solution worked for me, too! I was going out of my mind, trying different versions of adding one row at a time, several rows, etc but when I'd get to a certain point in the table (near the page bottom), the change bars would completely change! The long unbroken bar along the side would break up in weird places. But if you just highlight from the table anchor all the way thru to the paragraph tag just AFTER the table and set it to whatever column layout you're using (for me, it's one column, across the whole page), it will doubtless convert something somewhere from "2 column" to "1 column" -- you might not even know you had something set to 2 column; it's not always apparent when it's empty paragraphs. Just changing that "2" to a "1" in "cutomize text frame" SOLVED THE CHANGE BAR PROBLEM!! Now, no matter what I paste in, that long unbroken change bars STAYS that way!

[Caroline34270252kmrr]

To add another wrinkle: is anyone else finding that table cell padding affects the way the change bar displays? I  have been using the resolution above for years and it worked regardless of the cell padding but now, I just changed the padding to have more space around the text and bam, the change bar is "split" into a bar per row. I swear this never used to happen?

[Winfried Reng]

Hi,

I checked this in 16.0.5 and 17.0.3. In both the padding of a table changes also the thickness of the Track Text Edits margin.

The old change bars did not mark tables.

In which version did you have a different behaviour?

Best regards, Winfried

[Caroline34270252kmrr]

I am using FrameMaker 2020 now. My memory is from maybe 2 versions ago, that it didn't matter what the table's cell padding was, esp if you had the selected a paragraph marker above and below the table to apply the change bar. But, I could also be wrong. It;s maddening though. Thank you for checking.

[Winfried Reng]

OK. I do not have such old systems on my relatively new laptop 😉

And I cannot remember, how it was so many versions back.

Have a good day!