Chapter Numbering

[Joe Hus]

Hi

I  have  a document  which  I divided into two volumes.

I want the   chapter numbers in the  second volume to follow the numbering from first voulme.

First volume ends with Chapter 8.

Volume two when I update it, it  starts automatically at Chapter two.

How do I renumber it so it start at number 9.

Many thanks

[Dave Creamer of IDEAS]

Check your Format>Document>Numbering settings in the Book menu (you can right click on the documents too.) This can be done within the documents, but a Book file would be a better workflow.

In the Numbering Properties dialog box, set your first document to start at chapter 8 under the Chapter tab (top setting).

Set the second document to Continue Numbering from Previous Chapter in Book.

Save the documents.

Update the book. 

[Joe Hus]

Many  Thanks  Dave

This is the first time I use Framemaker after a break of three years.

I am still on an old  version. There  is  no upgared  avialable for  FrameMaker 10.  Adobe  wants me to  buy the  new version...too pricey  for  a retired  person like me.

regards

[Bob_Niland]

Joe Hus: I am still on an old version.

Which old version? It sounds like it was one of those then still available with a perpetual license. Some contributors here also have old versions, and can tailor their suggestions to the historical capabilities.

re: Adobe wants me to buy the new version…

The recent versions have been subscription-only. You can't really "buy" them.

[Joe Hus]

Hi

Plz find attached details.

Would  it  help to move on to the  new version of  FrameMaker  considering  I only use it sporadically?

best  regards

[Bob_Niland]

Joe: Would it help to move on to the new version of FrameMaker considering I only use it sporadically?

I would think only if you need some new features.

You can install the latest and use it for 30 days free to find out.
You can have both installed, depending on Windows version.
Be sure to save the final version of any new work as MIF, for ease of opening in FM10.

Adobe really needs to offer their apps as perhaps $per-day web services for infrequent users.

I still have FM7, running in XPmode on an old Win7Pro laptop. Haven't used it in several years now.

[Joe Hus]

Hi  Dave  again

It looks  like  I am really rusty.  I am trying to generate  a book with TOC and  an Index. Both files  exist in the folder but when  I click update  I only see TOC generated in the  book but not the  index.

When I tried to generate a  new index, it is  generated in an unacceptable format.  The  existing  index is really good for my purposes.

How  do  i force  FrameMaker to pick up the  index file?

How  do do I drag the index file  so that it is  generateed as part of te   book.?

[Dave Creamer of IDEAS]

The process of working with Frame has been almost identical since version 7 for most of the features. There were some major interface changes along the way (panels rather than dialog boxes) but the overall function remained the same. Obviously there are new features, but the majority of them affect structured documents.

For you book numbering, just right-click as I mentioned. 

The TOC and Index are formated on the reference pages. You can use the current help file as the process is the same.

Your Index is not a generated file--you must have added it like a regular chapter. Note the color of the TOC in the book; all generated files must have that color to update when you update the book.

To get your existing index to work with your book, remove the index from the book and add the Index in the same way you did the TOC. It should be listed in the menu just below the TOC option.

If you have an existing index design, before you add the generated index--rename a copy of your "good" index the same as your current one. The pattern is simple: the Book file name with the generated code (TOC, LOF, LOT, IX, etc.). Be sure to create it with the menu--do NOT add it like a regular file.

[Joe Hus]

Hi  Dave

I did exactly what you wrote,it did not wrok. I get  a blank window and  I have  no idea how to add the  files in the  blank window as attached.

I also tried to  generate a new index and a new  TOC  but they appera either as  blank ot horribly formated.

I am grateful for your  help.

best regards

[Dave Creamer of IDEAS]

Your List of files for book still doesn't show the index as a generated file.

I sent you a message about sharing the files so I can look at them.

[Joe Hus]

Hi

Do you mean send you the book and all its files and  attaching it here?  Or jsut the  index and TOC?

[Dave Creamer of IDEAS]

The book and it's files. Don't need the referenced graphics but if it's not too big, you can send the entire thing. 

[Joe Hus]

Hi  dave

Please find attached.

Note  I copied the  index  form a  previous file which was  working ok. All I did here is  delete ten chapters by the  index  produced was really bad. , so I copied the index from the  previous book but that did not work.

regards

[Joe Hus]

I  will send the  files in batches  as my first attempt failed.

[Dave Creamer of IDEAS]

How are you trying to send them?

[Joe Hus]

I  sent the files in two batches. As you can see  when you update the  book the  window is empty and  I have  no idea how to insert TOC and  Index in the  window  without creating new files that require  extensive  formatting. Please open te index  file  before you updat eth e book to check the require formatting.

[Joe Hus]

This is the  formatting I require in the index!

[Jeff_Coatsworth]

@Joe Hus you're not posting any images in your response. Use the "Insert Photos" icon to add screenshots.

[Bob_Niland]

Joe: …so I copied the index from the previous book but that did not work.

As I recall, that doesn't work, because the IX file added isn't tagged as generated in the new .book.

In the new book have FM generate a new IX file.
Open that and File🞃Import›Formats… pretty much everything from the older IX file.
Edit🞃Update Book…
I think you can also just use the file manager to copy the entire old file into the new one, but I haven't needed to work this problem in a long time now.

[Matt-Tech Comm Tools]

You'll need to add a new TOC or index to your book, then import the formatting (File > Import > Formatting) from the old TOC or index and regenerate.

[Dave Creamer of IDEAS]

He should be able to make sure the name of the IX file is "BookFileNameIX.fm", drop it in the document folder, and then generate the index. He needs to make sure he does NOT add it to the book like a regular document--it must be generated. (Basically, I posted this info two days ago.)

[Matt-Tech Comm Tools]

Agreed that renaming the IX and regenerating is a valid workflow. I just find that many (including myself) get tripped up with details when using that route. I stick with the importing of formats and reference pages from an acceptable file into the newly created file.

Not a better workflow, just one that I can rely upon.

[frameexpert]

I have some time this morning if you want to do a zoom or teams meeting. There would be no charge for this. Please contact me offlist if you are interested: rick at frameexpert dot com

[Joe Hus]

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