FM2020 v16.0.4.1062 - rearranging items in header page

[bronxguys02]

I currently have a header on a portait page that looks like this:

The purple area is a company logo. I need the same setup in landscape with the logo on the left and the variables on the right. When I copy the header to a landscape page, the variables are in the middle oif the header and I can't get them to go in the right. I also have a landscape master page with the variables on the left and the logo on the right on which I tried to switch the elements with no luck.

I assume I have to clear the header and start from scratch, but I still can't get the variables to go to the right side of the header.

These headers were laid out by our FrameMaker guru 25-30 years ago without the company logo, but the corporate look and feel was recently revised to include the logo in the header instead of the footer. 

TIA

Margaret

[LinSims]

Turn on Text Symbols.

If there's a tab either before or after the lines containing the Running H/Fs, it needs to be adjusted to the new margin. If it's before, it's a left tab and you'll have fun adjusting it. 😉 If it's after the text, it's a right tab and you need to set its position to (RightMargin - 0.01 inches), give or take. For a landscape page with 1/2-inch margins, that means the Right tab would be at 9.99 inches. (For some reason, if I set the right tab even with the right margin, things get a bit wonky for me, so I give it an ounch of space between the end of the text and the actual right margin.)

Personally, I use a three column, two row table in situations like this. That way the text of the Running H/F never overwrites the logo. In your case, Column 1 has the logo, Column 3 has the 2 Running H/Fs with a paragraph tag that is set to right-justified, and Column 2 is, say 0.2" wide, giving you a visible gap without being overwhelming if your heading text turns out to be really long.

[Barb Binder]

Hi @bronxguys02:

Since there is no other text on either line, you could simplify this and just set the Header style alignment to Right in Paragraph Designer > Basic.

Setting tabs is tricky for a lot of people, and two are included by default in new header and footer background frames. We can offer very precise instructions if you can grab a screen shot of the header frame with Text Symbols enabled and the Rulers showing. Even better, include the Paragraph Designer > Basic properties, with your cursor in on one of the variables, or next to one. 

~Barb

[bronxguys02]

Now it's worse. My first variable is on the left behind the logo, and the second variable is in the middle of the header.  Thanks. 

[LinSims · Accepted solution]

Your paragraph alignment is set to LEFT instead of RIGHT, and you have no tab in front of the Running H/F 1. Remember you'll need to put a return between the two variables so they are shown on separate lines. This may affect the positioning of the graphic (which is one of the reasons I prefer using a table as you can apply different paragraph formats or object styles).

[LinSims]

Also, it would help us troubleshoot if you turn on the text symbols. Click View > View Text Symbols so we can see the tab and paragraph symbols.

[bronxguys02]

Thank you. Between you and LinSims, I got the landscape page header set correctly on the master page.

[bronxguys02]

LinSims and Barb Binder got me where I need to be. Thank you both very much.