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deepspace9
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May 16, 2011
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Is there any way to convert the ImportObject into an image file ?

  • May 16, 2011
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I have converted a FM document into MIF file format. FM has a grapic imported by copying into the document. In the MIF file I can see the image like the following,

<ImportObject

  <Unique 1001019>

  <Pen 15>

  <Fill 7>

  <PenWidth  1.0 pt>

=TIFF

&%v

&II*\x00080000001000FE000400010000000000000000010300010000006009000001010300010000…..

Is there any way to convert the ImportObject inside the mif file into an image file ?

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    Anonymous
    May 17, 2011

    If for some reason extracting the image from a PDF does not work as desired, you could open the mif file in FM and do Save As RTF format then open the file in Word. In Word, click on the picture and right click, choose "Save as Picture" to extract the picture from there.

    I just tested a PNG in FM and it was exported to the RTF as PNG and it exported from Word as a PNG, so hopefully that same process would accommodate a jpeg image.

    FM's RTF export filter may change the resolution of the graphic, though, but it's worth testing.

    edit: When doing the Save As Picture in Word, there's a dropdown menu at the bottom that will let you choose several different formats, among them .jpg.

    Message was edited by: Sheila Carlisle

    Bob_Niland
    Community Expert
    Bob_NilandCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    May 16, 2011

    I have converted a FM document into MIF file  format.

    Why?

    FM has a graphic imported by copying into the document.

    Do you still have the originally imported image file?

    What format is it?

    In the  MIF file I can see the image like the following,

    <ImportObject

    ...

    =TIFF

    &II*\x00080000001000FE000400010000000000000000010300010000006009000001 010300010000…..

    Sounds like that's a raster object.

    Is there any way to convert the ImportObject inside the mif file into an image file ?

    What format image file?

    What is it that you need to do?

    deepspace9
    deepspace9Author
    Participant
    May 17, 2011

    I don’t have original image. I have only FM file. I want to convert the image into JPEG format.

    Van Kurtz
    Van Kurtz
    Inspiring
    May 17, 2011
    Well, you do have to specify some resolution. Just make it high, say 1200 dpi or more.

    No, one of the settings is to Determine Automatically, which uses the resolution of the image IN the PDF.

    Where is that found?

    I just set up (in Distiller 9) a Job Option set named "Recover Images" (which I do expect to use from time to time). The following are the settings that seem to have some bearing on image preservation. I see these same dialog choices in FM9 Print Setup.

    ____________________________________

    Distiller > Settings > Edit Adobe PDF Settings


    General

    Object Level Compression: [Off]

    Resolution: [72-4000] (<Note A>)


    Images
    Color Images

    Downsample: [Off]

    [9-2400] pixels per inch (<Note B>)

    Compression: [Off]

    <etc. for Gray and Bitmapped>


    Advanced

  • Save original JPEG images in PDF if possible

    _____________________________________

    Note A

    There is no "Resolution" choice for "Off" (or for "Determine Automatically"). But how much does this matter?

    I've always presumed that this setting primarily determines an alignment grid for object origin coordinates. Help is not very helpful, but does warn that large values can produce large PDF sizes? Why? Is there some implicit subsampling going on at low values? We use 600 for normal printing (as that's what our pub engine does). I use 1200 for image recovery.

    Note B

    Why is this ppi dialog not switched off when Downsample is Off? Does the value matter if "Off"?


    Error 7103,

    Regarding Note A and Note B... The Downsample dropdowns list three variations of Downsampling TO, each corresponding to a different downsampling method. When you select one of the Downsampling TO options, then the pixels per inch box allow you to specify the dpi of the downsampled image, the one after the downsampling.

    When you select Off, which means do NOT downsample, then the pixels per inch box is meaningless. Maybe it would be a nice interface feature to disable it, but that is another issue. In any event, OFF ignores any value in pixels per inch.

    Whenever you import an image into your publishing program (FrameMaker, InDesign, or whatever) and scale it, one can think of the scaled image as having a physical dpi, the number of pixels per physical inch on the "paper." When you specify downsampling in Distiller, the number you specify is most likely less than the physical dpi of the image in the document. It is probably meaningless to specify a number that is larger. I am guessing (and this is a guess) that Distiller does not UPsample images. I have never tested it.

    I use 1200 for image recovery.

    I assume you are talking about recoverying an image embedded in (copied into) the publishing document. I believe it is sufficient simply to turn downsampling off to create a PDF with the image at the resolution as embedded in the document.

    No, one of the settings is to Determine Automatically, which uses the resolution of the image IN the PDF.

    Where is that found?

    It is NOT in Distiller. It is in Acrobat Professional. (It may or may not be in Acrobat Standard or Acrobat Reader; I do not have them, so do not know.)

    The original poster wanted to recover an image copied into a Frame document file. My method is to create a PDF using a Distiller joboption with ALL downsampling and ALL compression OFF. Presumably the image is put into the PDF with all the pixels it has in the Frame file.

    THEN in Acrobat PROFESSIONAL, export the image with the setting Determine Automatically. I am presuming (never tested it) this exports ALL the pixels that the image has in the PDF file.

    Van

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