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Anonymous
April 10, 2012
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Losing Bold Format in Framemaker 10

  • April 10, 2012
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Hello,

I have been having a problem with the format of my headings, footers and logos losing the bold appearance in Framemaker 10. When the document was created according to our EDD, template and paragraph designer, certain Headings were defined as BOLD along with the company logo and some content in the footer. For the past couple of days any BOLD formatting has disappeared from certain sections in my book and has become regular weight (although it still retains the BOLD status in the paragraph designer it is applying a regular weight font). Therefore I have to re-apply all heading elements etc in order for this BOLD format to take affect again. I do this save the document and sometimes it disappears yet again  then I need to apply the elements all over again.

Can you please explan to me why this is happening and if there is a solution to fix this.

Thanks

Anne Macfarlane

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    Bernard Aschwanden
    Participating Frequently
    April 11, 2012

    There could be several causes on this. The EDD rules are applied in an order, so it could be that you have a rule that says "use a para tag that is bold" and another rule somewhere that says "make it regular" and then you have a conflict. A few questions for you:

    1. Does this happen in a consistent way? That is, can you recreate the issue "at will" by building a specific combination of elements.

    2. Can you move the elements to another location in your structure and have the bold "come back" when you reposition this?

    If those are in fact things that happen, then review the EDD carefully to ID the right combinations. My guess is that you have a combination of rules (such as First or Last para rules, or some type of character level format) kicking in and messing with the files.

    Check to see what para tag is applied, but also check the element as well as its parent and other ancestors. ID if any of these are driving a change. This will mean digging in the EDD a bit though, so you need to be comfortable with that. Worst case, you may want to see if anyone who consults on EDD development can help out. It should be fixable, and my guess is that even someone who doesn't know your EDD specifically can find and ID the issue in about an hour or so. Note that this is a knee jerk estimate, but finding and fixing this shouldn't be the toughest thing to do.

    Hope this helps,

    Bernard

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    Russ Ward
    Legend
    April 11, 2012

    Hi Anne,

    I can't say for sure without seeing the file, but your description smells of a bug that has popped up in structured Frame for the past couple of releases or so. It is characterized by the loss of formatting when a text-range (inline element) is inserted at certain places. There was a thread some time ago that included a discussion of it:

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/3736204

    If you think this might be what you are seeing, there is a sample file attached to the thread (EDD_bug.fm) that shows some workarounds that I have found.

    If this is not related to what you are seeing, it is possible that you've (unfortunately) found another bug.

    Russ

    Bob_Niland
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    Bob_NilandCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    April 10, 2012

    Do the header or footers contain any text with Character formats?

    A Character format that doesn't have Weight set to "As-Is" will definitely cause a problem.

    Another possibility is that the font doesn't actually have a Bold variant, and Frame is faking it, but only when the default printer or pseudo-printer is PostScript (or PDF).

    If any h/f content is vairable-defined, that might be worth a look.

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