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I am using FrameMaker 9.0 on Windows, and I'm trying to add the statement "Page intentionally left blank" on the last page of my chapters. I've found some information online about how to do it, but not step-by-step instructions. I tried each of the solutions (adding a reference frame in the reference pages, adding a new master page), but for some reason, I can't get this to work. I also tried just manually typing the line in, but that's risky because I'll probably forget some in the final edit and/or I'll add/delete text and the pagination will change.
Sorry if this has been posted before. I did a search and couldn't find it.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hi meganew,
I set mine up on a reference page. Created a page size reference frame (See below for instructions on a ref frame.) and then a text box (of course, it has to be placed in the frame correctly for your format.) in it with "This page intentionally left blank." Then created a para format called blank page. In the para designer, click on the advanced icon and select the drop down arrow beside Frame Below pgf. Whatever you have named the frame on the reference page will be in the drop down
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Hi Meganew,
Can we apply your suggested method to removing blank pages inserted by FraemMaker. I still can NOT remove blank pages even though I used all suggestiins in this forum.
thanks
Joe
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Hello Joe,
If blank pages are being inserted, it's probably because the settings in the book template. You can make the book single page or double page. If it's double pages, it will insert the blank pages so that your chapters start on an odd page number for printing purposes. I don't have FrameMaker in front of me, so I can't tell you the exact steps, but if you click your book and click settings, you should be able to fix that issue.
Let me know if that solves your issue.
Thanks!
Megan
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Many thanks Megan,
I tried all solutions,nothing worked. In a single chapter I can delete empty pages using pagination command in format. As soon as I update the book empty pages appear.
Any ideas?
regards
Joe
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Hello Joe,
Sounds like there are elements being inherited from files somewhere.
Did you try this?
When you generate and update a book, the files in the book inherit structure information from the book file. A file’s Element Catalog may have inclusions and exclusions from the book, and other inherited information in the file may affect the formatting of its text elements.
If you delete a file from a book to use the file as a stand-alone document, reapply the file’s element definitions to remove any structure information that came from the book. If the file’s text formatting was affected by this structure information, reapplying the definitions also restores the file’s original formatting.
1. Make the appropriate document window or book window active. If a book window is active, select the documents you want to affect.
2. In the file, choose File > Import > Element Definitions.
3. Leave the Import from Document pop-up menu set to Current, select While Updating: Remove Information Inherited from Book, and click Import.
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In addition to checking to see if book chapter pages have been set to
always be even in count, look to see if the chapters that follow are set
to begin specifically on a right or left hand page. For example, if
chapters are set to start on a right-hand page and is chapter 1 is three
pages long, it will also end on a right-hand page. Chapter 2 MUST then
insert an extra left-hand page in order to start on a right-hand page.
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I like your approach to the TPILB solution.
I use a TPILB para to trigger a TPILB page (containing the TPILB message).
The only downside is that I need to manually check for unneeded TPILB prior to final publish. I generally publish the PDF and then check the end of each chapter, so it takes only a minute to confirm.
Circumventing the use of the Left page would seem to be good, but I'd still be checking the end of each chapter for proper application of the page, just to be safe.
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Hi meganew,
I set mine up on a reference page. Created a page size reference frame (See below for instructions on a ref frame.) and then a text box (of course, it has to be placed in the frame correctly for your format.) in it with "This page intentionally left blank." Then created a para format called blank page. In the para designer, click on the advanced icon and select the drop down arrow beside Frame Below pgf. Whatever you have named the frame on the reference page will be in the drop down menu. Click on it and apply. Your blank page should show up.
Hope this helps!!
To create a reference frame:
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Thank you both for your great responses. It's very nice having so many knowledgeable people on this site.
Since so many of us have had to find workarounds, it would be nice if there was a template that included this as a master page or reference page. Maybe I'll post that on the Requested Features page (or whatever that forum is called).
Thanks again!
Megan
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It would be nice if the MasterPageMappingTable feature supported a notation for empty pages in the Paragraph Tag Name column, say: "\blank" (or some other illegal or unwise name never used for a real para fmt name). Then we could tell Frame to map TPILB Master Pages whenever a page would be content-free.
By the way, I tested my hack, with the addition of setting up both Left.Used and Right.Used. It automatically handles both any trailing blank page at the end of the file, and any blanks within the flow resulting from paras with Start on "Top of Left Page" or "Top of Right Page".
The AMP seems to take a little longer to run, but it's worth it to eliminate the need to look for stray unneeded manually inserted TPILBs.
I doubt that I will use my hack, because we don't bother to put TPILBs on normal blank pages. They have a header, footer and page #, which is ample advice to the reader that the page isn't blank due to toner run-out or paper misfeed.
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PS - There is a caveat to the hack. Mapping other page layouts (like chapter start) requires that the triggering para fmt be the first Flow A text on the page. Frame gives priority to the first format found on the page that appears in the MasterPageMappingTable. The order of that table appears to have no effect.
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@Error7103,
Great idea. Thanks for posting.
I'm testing it here. It works in most cases.
Anomalies that I see are:
Definitely worth more testing here. So far I'm stumped on these two anomalies.
Best regards,
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Hi,
I was going through some mail for my elderly mother and, in one of the renvelopes was a blank, white, plastic credit card with this printed on it.
This card intentionally left blank.
As Charlie Brown would say: Good Grief!
Yours,
Michael F.
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So, re: pages with table continuation, apparently none of the paratags of the table is the first paratag of flow A on the page.
I wonder how we could learn if FM believes a paratag is "on" that page at all? And if so, which one?
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Due to some more recent confusion about this, here's a step-by-step for the AMP hack:
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.0\samples\MoreSamples\Reports\Report1.fm
Paragraph Tag Name | Right-Handed Master Page (or Single-Sided Master Page) | Left-Handed Master Page | Range Indicator (Single, Span pages, Until changed) | Comment |
---|---|---|---|---|
TitlePage | Plain | Plain | Single | |
Body | Right.Content | Left.Content | Single | |
Bulleted | Right.Content | Left.Content | Single |
Note: Unless enhanced in later FMs, this hack doesn't work if the document contains tables that span more than two pages. FM7 ignores paragraphs in table cells for master page mapping. You need some non-table Flow A body content above or below the table to get proper mapping. Alternatively, if the table cells are all filled with a background color (including white), it might not matter if they get a TPILB page that is otherwise identical to our Left.Content and Right.Content, as the table will obscure the TPLIB text.
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Bob Niland,
Thanks again.
Multi-page tables work for me in FM11 and FM12 with the addition of two paratags, such as ta-TableAnchor and te-TableEnd.
On the body page, insert the table in a para styled with ta-TableAnchor. Also on the body page, append a te-TableEnd para immediately after the table. Negative space above and line height can make the ta- and te- paras be almost invisible. Because they have no text in them, I color them red for visibility while editing. I can image the color change might cause a problem with some publishing, but it hasn't caused a problem for me.
In the UnstructMasterPageMaps table, add rows for those to paratags as:
:
ta-TableAnchor | Right.Content | Left.Content | Until changed |
te-TableEnd | Right.Content | Left.Content | Single |
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Cool. That seems to solve the table span problem.
What's the reason for the TE tag?
And on the color, use Color Views to manage that. Define an enterprise-wide standard for which View number is what, and for the authoring view define a color named, say "Meta", which makes such meta text visible only during edit.
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Bob Niland,
Thanks again.
I've never used Color Views and wouldn't have thought of it. Schweet!
The te- tag switches AMP from "Until changed" mode back to "Single" mode. A bit like a bookend.
Top-of-mind, I'm not sure if it's needed. I don't recall noticing it as the first body para on any page, so maybe it's never really used.
A useful test case for a force-even pagination file would be to set the table length so that the table concludes its multi-page run on an odd page, with te- as (or not as) the final para in the file. How does FM set up the next (final, even) page? As Left or as Left.Content?
(I'm away from a machine with FM at the moment, so I can't test it.)
Happy Holidays!
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Ah yes, the TE is needed to terminate the "Until changed".
On CVs, see: Re: Color Views Common Conventions?
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meganew,
Just to be clear....once you have this set up with the frame after the para format, it should work for you all the time. Just be sure when you copy formats from another document that you include the reference pages. Sometimes I have had it not show the blank page frame, but you just go to the advanced column and click on the blank page frame after para again. Sooo, just saying this is pretty much a template once you set it up.
We also use this for Heading 2 continued. The Heading 2 continued para format has included with it a automatic (continued) that has been set up on the reference page.
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meganew,
I looked at my copy of the Adobe Framemaker User Guide and they use completely blank pages for even last pages. How is that for a model? Even one of my technical writing books uses completely blank even last pages.
A few years ago, I worked at an electronics company that required that "blank page" format. A new VP looked at it and said "Get rid of those dumb statements." At which I said hooray, for that was my opinion from the outset, but I got voted down by people who thought we needed to do this "for the customer."
At my current job, I simply insert a page break (Special -> Break -> Top of Page) and let the headers and footers continue.
At the previous job, I created a master page that was blank except for the main content text box. In the center of the page I inserted a text frame with the blank page wording. Whenever I needed a blank left page, I'd apply the blank master page.
If you can rally enough support, the best solution is to talk them out of it.
Yours,
Michael F
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... the best solution is to talk them out of it.
I suspect that in many cases the TPILB is required by government or industry document specification.
And in many cases where it's just enterprise spec, it's memorialized in a glossy printed Style Guide that can't get changed without Board of Directors approval.
But sure, otherwise just ask local management: "Have you ever asked any actual customers if they think this is necessary?"
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>>But sure, otherwise just ask local management: "Have you ever asked any actual customers if they think this is necessary?"
Error,
Right on! I remember asking proponents of the blank page notice that same question, and the answer was something like, we haven't done that in years but we think customers need us to tell them where the chapter ends.
This tag line was probably invented by the same people who created other "helpful" sayings like "Remove wrapper before eating."
Yours,
Michael F
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or "free gift"
;>)
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For our purposes we have to use the "Intentionally Blank Page" with words. Anytime a page is blank, we get emails and questions about them. People think there is something missing. Guess it just depends on the audience you are writing for.
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Blank Page Sufferers,
I agree with Peter that a graphic or symbol on the blank last page would be better. It would be more aesthetic than that dopey text and you could include it in the front matter where you explain conventions used in the manual. I think in the news business, I have seen "--30--" used to end a raw story or press release.
I nominate the Greek omega (which I can't seem to reproduce here), as in "the Alpha and the Omega."
For isk2002's customers, could it be that they may need remedial reading help? I hope not.
I would love to get e-mail from customers about the documentation. It seems that most complaints are about the product or that the service people never forward documentation complaints to the tech writers.
Anyway, after explaining to a customer that the blank pagea are just that, I would use the opportunity to ask them if they could spare a few minutes to answer some usability questions about the documentation. Now that would be valuable information. After a few such conversations, you could design a pretty effective questionnaire for future calls.
Yours,
Michael F
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A more appropriate dingbat might be null sign, "".
Or how about a large faint watermark saying:
"No content for this page."