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May 15, 2024
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Structured document suggestions for header/new-page reminder step

  • May 15, 2024
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Hello all, I'm using FrameMaker Version 17.0.3.546 My engineering organization is very afraid of change. We write procedures and organize the content as such:

A. SECTION HEADER (These are always the same A-D)

1. Here is level1

           a. Here is level2

                     (1) level3 ... and so on until we get to a new page, where there is a reminder of all ancestor levels as such:

-----NEW PAGE----

A. 1. a.

                     (2) Here is a level3 step in the procedure that started a new page.

                     (3) The next level3 step

 

I'm trying to set up a structured document so there is cross-referencing within the procedure and for other procedures, pagination is automatic, list of effective pages is created for the end-user, etc.

 

I think I can tackle a lot of these problems, but I've run into a few issues.

1. I cannot get the autonumbering to work as I want with the new page "reminders" and cross-referencing becomes hard with that too (especially to look nice with tab breaks in there).

2. My organization has a lot of procedures that are copy and pasted from before into a new file location, so I could see this messing with cross-referencing to outside procedures.

3. Converting old documents to the new format when copying them to a new version.

 

I'm looking for any and all suggestions (especially the autonumber/new page thing) because right now my organization focuses so much on format and how it looks, I think the content of the document is getting neglected. (They manually type in the "A. 1. a. (1)..." etc. with the tabs and everything - yikes, imagine you have to add or delete a step).

I want to create automation for the end-user:

1. Is a structured document the best way to go about this?

2. If so, please help with the autonumber/new page format. I'm willing to change it a little, but I have to convince a lot of people that it's better for the industry workers performing the procedure that the new format can still be used.

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    4 replies

    Matt-Tech Comm Tools
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    May 17, 2024

    If you are already set up with structured documents, the easiest thing is to correct whatever formatting (numbering) issues you have. Rick, myself, and a few others can give you pointers or help as needed.

    -Matt Sullivan, FrameMaker Course Creator, Author, Trainer, Consultant
    frameexpert
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    May 16, 2024

    Please let me know if you want to schedule a free web meeting so I can see what you are trying to accomplish. Contact me at rick at frameexpert dot com

    Community Expert
    May 15, 2024

    I have to agree with @Jeff_Coatsworth - From the manner in which you describe your documents, it is difficult to see any need for structured authoring. You should be able to accomplish this using unstructured FrameMaker. If you can make a show us a mockup page with the functionality and design you are looking for, I am pretty sure we can help you put things together.

    Bjørn Smalbro - FrameMaker.dk
    Jeff_Coatsworth
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    May 15, 2024

    I think I've busted up your wall of text into something that can be read now.

     

    I'm not sure why you think you need to go the Structured FM route when all you seem to need is some good paragraph tag styling and some autonumbering formats (all of which Unstructured FM can accomplish).