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TableTitleLOT

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November 27, 2018
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Hello all,

Is there some reason I do not see the para tag TableTitleLOT in the list of tags in the paragraph designer?

Thanks in advance/.

Regards,

Ben

FM2017

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Correct answer Barb Binder

Hi Ben:

In the Set Up dialog box, choose TableTitle. See that suffix at the top of the dialog box? FrameMaker will copy the TableTitles from the source files (Chp1_Intro.fm) and will assign a new tag name called TableTitleLOT to the resulting list.

After you update your book, open the LOT file and click on any of the entries. They will automatically be tagged as TableTitleLOT at that point.

~Barb

Barb Binder

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You guys have been busy! I didn't think I was gone that long!

Are you all set Ben? If not, I'll add the following:

For this look, based on your screen shot of your current table number properties in post #9:

Table 1-1: Sample Edits . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1

Table 1-2: Sample Code . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2

The LOT Reference page should show the text tagged TableTitleLOT (with View > Text Symbols activated)

<$paranum><$paratext>><pagenum>¶

The bold indicates the non-printing characters: tab and hard return. There is no space between the first two building blocks because you have spacing built into the source document tag.

linsims did a great job explaining how to set the tab with a leader dot. Once you set the tab it will look like this on the reference page.

Update your book and it will look as described above on the body pages.

~Barb

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training

LinSims

Community Expert

The bit you have highlighted configures the information that is included when the LOT is generated, so yes, it is now correct. Now you have to set up the way the information will look once the LOT is generated.

Do NOT use autonumbering with this paragraph tag. You'll wind up a lot of weirdness.

1. Open the paragraph designer for the LOT TableTitleWideLOT tag.

2. Click the Basic button and click Edit under the Tab Stops panel:

This opens the Edit Tab Stop panel, where you can add a right-aligned tab stop (around 6.2 or so?) and then give it a dot leader.

3. Click Continue to save and close these changes.

4. Click Update Style to apply the changes to the paragraph.

5. Regenerate your LOT.

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RBKearnsJrAuthor

Inspiring

When you guys are talking about updates to the reference page, I am not sure where the updates should be applied. The bit highlighted in yellow is what seems to work (still need to right justify the page numbers and precede them with ". . . . ." though.

LinSims

Community Expert

Excuse me. The bit you have highlighted is MOSTLY correct. If the table number includes the chapter number, your reference page should show:

<$chapnum>-<$paranum>: <$paratext> <$chapnum>-<$pagenum>

I don't think you want the \t, though, that's a building block from the autonumbering. Just put a tab in between the <$paratext> and the second <$chapnum>, and when you set up your paragraph tag it'll be where it's supposed to be.

Barb Binder

Community Expert

Hi Ben:

It's been a while!

Are you in the generated LOT file and looking at the paragraph catalog?

If you click in a paragraph on the page, what do you see in the status bar in the lower left corner of the page? Fm creates new paragraph tags for the generated files (original tag name plus suffix) and adds it to the catalog, so you should see ¶: TableTitleLOT. We can delete tags from the catalog but they will retain their original names and then appear with an asterisk in the same location. Does it show ¶: *TableTitleLOT?

More details and screenshots will help here.

~Barb

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training

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RBKearnsJrAuthor

Inspiring

Yes it has been a while. This is a symptom of wearing so many hats....

That's just it. There is no TableTitleLOT in the selection list:

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RBKearnsJrAuthor

Inspiring

Hi Ben:

If you have already generated the LOT, then you will see the tag listed in the dialog box, because it lists all of the tags from all of the chapters in the book list. You don't want to select it though. You want to select TableTitle. When you generate an LOT, Fm adds the LOT Reference page to the end of the existing reference pages.

Your last response provided an important piece of information—you are trying to reuse an existing LOT in a new project.

I pulled in a LOT file from the FM templates

If you want to reuse an LOT from another project, you need to follow a specific set of steps, outlined here: Adobe FrameMaker: Reusing a TOC or Index - Rocky Mountain Training. This post has been around a while, but it's all still the same.

Start by reading the post, then remove the LOT from your book window, move a fresh copy of the old (working) LOT into the project folder, rename it to match the expected name (book name + suffix.fm). Then add the LOT to the book. Fm will find it and it will work automatically.

~Barb

Not exactly trying to use an existing LOT....

Just pulled one in from the supplied FM template files in order to see what happens.

However, I would like to create a standard LOT that we can use (we have none up to this point).

Here is the "look" of what I'd like to create as the LOT:

List Of Tables

Table 1-1: Sample Edits . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1

Table 1-2: Sample Code . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2

etc...

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