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November 11, 2020
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I'm trying to adapt to Fresco after using Draw for some years following on from the original Ideas, which I loved.

With Ideas and Draw my drawings were always crystal clear no matter how much I zoomed in and when I exported them in PDF format they stayed that way.

With Fresco, during the drawing process the line quality seems to deteriorate the more I add. This is especially the case when I merge layers together. The end result is hopelessly pixelated when I zoom in, and although the exported PDF image size is large, it's equally hopeless in terms of clarity.

Am I doing something wrong or is this a built in penalty for using the free version?

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Correct answer Sjaani

Hi and thank you for feedback! The size I am using is either equivalent to A4 or A3. When using the same format and dpi with Sketch I could zoom to then maximum 400 % without seeing any pixels, with Fresco I can detect them already at 100 %. The same when I print, wich makes Fresco impossible for me to use. I figure that there must have been a program of some sort (rendering machine) in the background bluring the pixels out in Sketch - why not in Fresco? Or even better, as in Expressi as posted above ( https://www.expresii.com/youji-rendering-engine.html ). Sadly enough Expressi doen't work with iPad... Many thanks again for answering me.

Fresco is bitmap based so you should expect to see pixels.
If you're using the vector brushes and seeing pixels then something needs to be looked into.
I can zoom in 1000% and have no pixels on the Vector brush, but the other brushes show clear pixelation at 100%.

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Patata37457622fxyz

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Hi!

Just wanted to check if this issue is still not resolved? I have recently stared Fresco and was working on my first project using Vector brushes and when I am trying to export it my illustrations are pixelating. My version is free at present. What should I do?

Anubhav M

Community Manager

Hello @Patata37457622fxyz,

Sorry to hear about your experience. Would you mind sharing some more details, like the exact version of the OS/Fresco, device make/model, screenshots of the settings used, and a link to a sample cloud document (https://adobe.ly/4c5eWG1), so we can investigate this further?

Note: While sharing the link, kindly make it public and enable the option to Save a copy under Link settings.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks,

Anubhav

jonk80455617

Known Participant

Certinally no slight pixelation in Fresco. I bought my iPad Pro to be able to use simple and intuitive Sketch without pixelation, and I am now selling my iPad because of tecknocratic and overloaded and severly pixilated Fresco. A big sorrow that Sketch no longer is possible to use. Sigh.

Sjaani

Community Expert

The more you zoom in the bigger the pixels look on any app. Or are you stating that the pixels at 100% on Fresco where enough to discourage you from using it any further?

jonk80455617

Known Participant

Hi, and thank you for answering. Yes, discourage at 100 % - at least when it comes to watercolor, which is the only brushes I use. Even if I use a canvas of like 400 dpi I can see the pixels at 100 % - and worse of all, when it's printed the pixels are still there. What's the point if you cannot print giclées? Why not add a rendering function? Must have been some in Sketch, why was that taken away? Look for instance at https://www.expresii.com/youji-rendering-engine.html. A marvelous program, unfortunately the creator has no financial means to make it work on iPad. Why not start a collaboration with him, a person who clearly understands the essence of art. An understanding that also Sketch had - so exemplary simple and intuitive - as with watercolor paper, real brushes, colors and a bowl of water on your table. All which Fresco lacks, instead overloaded with tools and possibilities - does not the creators of Fresco understand that art is created when met with limitations, not the opposite? Full freedom and the possibility of doing whatever - which seem to be the goal of Fresco - simply make art unnecessary. But of course, I can fully understand that there are many who are amazed of how much one can do with Fresco - but why not keep Sketch for us who just want to paint like we always have, only now with an iPad instead of at an irl studio? It was such an amazing thing with Sketch - a portable studio which you could bring along wherever you went - what a blast when it was shut down. I have tried to communicate this several times, but unfortunately never any response - until now. So once again, many thanks for wanting to know more. Actually, had just taken photos of my iPad Pro and Pencil to to but out a sales add when I saw your response - maybe now I wait a little. Hopefully you can answer if there is any plans within Fresco to do anything about the rendering issue for instance? Kind regards, Jon

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DaveJCummings

Community Expert

What size of file are you working with? What DPI?

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hodmandodAuthor

Participant

Thanks for your question. I didn't knowingly chose any DPI. I thought when using vector this was unnecessary. Draw was a relatively simple program to use and all I had to chose was paper shape. I did the same with Fresco. I use only vector brushes.

Sue Garibaldi

Community Manager

Hello Sue,

I'm beginning to think I must have done this - inadvertently.

I've been fumbling around so much trying to get to grips with Fresco anything is possible.

Occasionally I've selected a pixel brush by mistake but I only need to do one stroke to realise my mistake. However, I think I must have switched layers after doing this without undoing the brush mark and then merged that layer down later thinking it had something else in it.

Many thanks for the explanation,

Nicholas

Nicholas.

It's a lot learning a new app and it's really, really easy to pick up the pixel brushes 1. without even realizing it and 2. without even thinking about how they differ.

Do let me know if you notice it again and neither scenario is true. (Layer groups will cause pixellation too but I believe that's only noticeable on export.)

Sue.

Sjaani

Community Expert

I don't think you're doing anything wrong, and I don't think it is a built in penalty for using the free version.

Fresco uses shapes for vector rather than a true point to point vector line. I think this is more likely the cause for the slight pixelation we get in Fresco when using the Vector brushes..

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hodmandodAuthor

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Thanks for the reply. I assumed Fresco would use vector in the same way as Ideas and Draw? Maybe I'm being overly demanding, but the difference doesn't seem slight to me. I'm attaching some close ups close ups for comparison. Fresco is the top one, Draw next, Ideas at the bottom.

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