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Another crop question! (beginner)

Community Beginner ,
Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

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I´m sorry to have to go here to ask such a simple question, but I´m soon going crazy!

I´ve watched about 20 tutorials and videos about crop pictures in Illustrator and I still don´t get it to work after several hours and reading on forums.

My picture is from start a .jpg witch I´ve done image tracing on so it now is vectorized. After this I´d like to cut the picture in half and separate the two pieces but keep them both in my artboard.

First I tried to make a rectangle over halv of the picture and made a clipping mask. This way half of my picture was lost and also removed from my layers.

Then I tried to use the knife tool, then I got a line with some ancors witch seems correct but still not able to split the picture. I´m only able to move all the paths around, not able to select just half of the picture even though I use the direct marking tool.

I´ve also tried "object""expand", so I get the markers for all the lines in the picture. However I still don´t get how just to make a rectangle witch I can move. I just move the rectangle and the picture doesn´t split or I just manage to move the whole picture and the picture still don´t split!

Attached a pic of my problem.splitpic2.png

All tutorials and videos really seems so simple and I guess this is really easy but I don´t get this, or guessing I´ve some strange setting witch is the problem.

Please, help me understand what I´m doing wrong.

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Guide , Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

Another way to do it with clipping masks

with your traced image , or any image

Draw a rectangle round the object

add the path you want to split to be like,  I made a zig zag   or a straight line etc

Hide the viability  of the  traced image ( click the eye icon next to it in the layers ).

Select >Deselect

and select  just the middle line

Object >path> divide object below -

that will split the rectangle into two.

Turn visibility, back on

Make a new layer - the icon at the bottom of the layers panel

In the la

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

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splitpic4.png

This is what I manage to to, but when I try to move one of the two pieces of the picture the whole picture moves.

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splitpic5.jpg

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Community Expert ,
Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

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Jonas,

What happens if you:

1) Image Trace, then Object>Image Trace>Expand;

2) With the Line Segmant Tool (hidden under the Shape Tool) ShiftClickDrag over the whole rectangle, then Object>Path>Divide Objects Below?

If you wish to get rid of the white parts, you may use Ignore White in the tracing options, or you may delete the paths with the white fill (select one and then Select>Same>Fill Color and then delete).

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

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Thank you for your quick reply Jacob!

Unfortunately this didn´t work either.

It says it is not possible to do because there is more than one object marked. 

If I do this again and just mark one object, the same problem as before, the picture moves as one piece instead of two.

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

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Now I finally manage to split the picture in two, unfortunately not the way I wanted (supposed to split in a straight line)..... see pic.

splitpic6.jpg

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Community Expert ,
Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

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Jonas,

To have the Object>Path>Divide Objects Below work, only have that single (straight) path selected. Was that how you did it?

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

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Use the knife tool, hold the shift + alt for a straight line. Ungroup and select the part you want to move. 

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Guide ,
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Another way to do it with clipping masks

with your traced image , or any image

Draw a rectangle round the object

add the path you want to split to be like,  I made a zig zag   or a straight line etc

Hide the viability  of the  traced image ( click the eye icon next to it in the layers ).

Select >Deselect

and select  just the middle line

Object >path> divide object below -

that will split the rectangle into two.

Turn visibility, back on

Make a new layer - the icon at the bottom of the layers panel

In the layers panel itself

Alt drag the traced image into the new    (Alt drag copies it)

Normal  drag one of the half of the rectangle into the new layer too

so it looks like below  with the path above the object you want to clip in each layer

Click  to select all one layer

then

Object > Clipping mask > make

Then they can be separated

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Guide ,
Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

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Yours is  the best and cleanest way , but while it's easy with something simple like your flag,

if there are numerous  objects split its very hard to select them all,

to group or move properly

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

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Making your selection in Outline Mode is more accurate on complex objects. Get as close to the cut point as possible.MaxthonSnap20161226105123.png MaxthonSnap20161226105251.png

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Guide ,
Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

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how many cuts there 16 or 17 ....

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 26, 2016 Dec 26, 2016

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There was one single cut right down the middle as shown in the first screen shot.

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 27, 2016 Dec 27, 2016

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Now I finally get it!

I didn´t get the group thing right from start.

Big thank you everybody!

Merry Christmas! 😃

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Dec 27, 2016 Dec 27, 2016

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For my part you are welcome, Jonas.

And a Happy New Year.

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