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November 24, 2022
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change default preset setting art board unit from points to pixel or inch

  • November 24, 2022
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Maybe it's just me, but I have never used Points as unit in the 20+ years I have been using illustrator.

I use Inches. occationally i get documents in CM and now a days I often work in Pixels. But Never Points. (save for Font size)

 

It would be nice if we could change the default unit for the print tab.

Correct answer Doug A Roberts

while that Might be true, it misses the point. We're not simply asking HOW to make Illustrator better for ourselves we're asking that they FIX it for everyone for now and always on items that Don't and Never made sense. 

 

Illustrator isn't InDesign or a word processor, as such, Hyphonate should have been defaulted off since the beginning. My guess is, it was default on 30 years ago to be like "look what we can do".


As for points, until grade schools default to teaching kids Points instead of cm/in, no one will use it. There is no need to be stubborn about it, just drop it. I gaurantee, anyone that uses points will understand. Like Latin, it's a dead language. No one will fight you to make it the default. (imagine that!)

 


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while that Might be true, it misses the point. We're not simply asking HOW to make Illustrator better for ourselves we're asking that they FIX it for everyone for now and always on items that Don't and Never made sense. 


By @chrisdpage7717237

 

Have you submitted a uservoice request?

https://illustrator.uservoice.com/

 

There are a few relating to document profiles and default settings already if you wish to vote for those instead.

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December 2, 2022

Picas used to be the print industry standard for document size and there are 12 points in a pica. It may be that because the imperial measurement is more of a U.S. thing and Adobe is global now which makes US measurements the minority. Adobe used to have a "persistent" option which I can no longer find. Also in the art board dimensions in the control panel at the top where you used to be able to key in 11 inches (to change whatever pts.) and it would change the document and the ruler to inches, no longer works in the most recent update (it changes the size of the art board, but it converts it back to points immediately).  The easiest thing at this point (no pun intended) is to change the ruler like Monika suggested. I tried saving a new workspace with inches, but it didn't stick either. 

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January 18, 2023

@lmmura615 

thanks to @Ton Frederiks there is a work around.

 

It seems that the changes suggested here to the Print.ai and other preset files do work... BUT we need to use the Legacy New File interface.

 

In Preferences / General / Use legacy "New File" interface

 

Now with the old interface Profile: settings work

 

Thank you @Monika Gause as well for your assistance.

I now have Print.ai files that are in Inches and have Hyphenation defaulted to off!

 

WOO HOO!

Now let hope when I update Illustrator I don't lose these, cuase I'll forget how ! HAHA

 

Monika Gause
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June 10, 2024

For some reason I thought one of the latest updates did turn hyphonate off by default. but I could be wrong. I've learned to live with it. It's one of those things us designers get to complain about every time we use a paragraph box. 

As for default measurements, as a Canadian in my 40's I'm used to both Metric and Imperial measurements. Paper here is generally in inches because of our proximity to the USA, so that's my go to. But I understand the rest of the world uses metric. 

What part of the world uses points? I'm currious to know who'd fight me/us on this.

 

Perhaps that's the "simple" solution. when installing it should ask you right there, what Country are you in. Then show us the defaults to that country but like a Smart watch you can Edit those defaults. (miles/km, lb/kg)

Again in Canada we are messed up becuase of our neighbour to the south. must of us use km and lb.



@chrisdpage7717237  schrieb:

For some reason I thought one of the latest updates did turn hyphonate off by default.

 

It is turned off in the latest versions.

 


@chrisdpage7717237  schrieb:

 

Perhaps that's the "simple" solution. when installing it should ask you right there, what Country are you in. Then show us the defaults to that country but like a Smart watch you can Edit those defaults. (miles/km, lb/kg)

Again in Canada we are messed up becuase of our neighbour to the south. must of us use km and lb.


 

That is not a simple solution, because nobody wants to do that right after installing. People don't even like the What's new box ...

If you want to configure everything, just use the New document profiles.

If you just want millimetres, install the English UK version. That's what I'm currently using and it's set up to mm. 

 

If French Canadian is set up in the wrong way, then maybe post a bug on https://illustrator.uservoice.com

 

BTW: this is the community forum. If you want to post a feature suggestion, then please use the uservoice.

Monika Gause
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November 24, 2022

Edit your New document profile accordingly.

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November 24, 2022

Hi Monika,

I tried what I think you were suggesting. 

Users/ -> /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Adobe Illustrator 27/en_US/New Document Profiles/Print.ai

I opened this file. Changed it to Inch, and saved it. moved the old Print.ai file to another folder. and placed the new Print.ai in that folder. Quit and restarted Illustrator. clicked on the Print Tab, and it was still points. I opened the Print.ai file to be sure it wasn't rewriten and it's still Inches, so I don't think that's the right file. I'm not sure this is something we can change. 

 

Anyhow, it's a feature request so that we don't need to do that EVERY time we open a New document for the rest of time. There might be people out there that use Points (im guessing outside of NA) I'd love to see a poll. (is that something we can do here make a Poll?)
Anyhow, developers are always looking for ways to minimize unnessary clicks. This seemed like one of those opportunities. A subtle change to give users the choice to save the preset defaults in each tab as "X"

 

If this is something that can already be done, I might need a little more direction, but if that is the case, perhaps Adobe could do a better job of showing users that it is possible. 

thanks.

Monika Gause
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November 24, 2022

THere is another folder with New document profiles inside the Application folder > Illustrator > Support Files