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Create hole with path objects

Community Beginner ,
Aug 11, 2023 Aug 11, 2023

Hello. I have tried to use pathfinder to remove create cut outs with "Layer 5 objects". Layer 5 contains two paths. With them I want to create holes on "Layer 2". So Layer 5-objects should cut out on layer 2. Layer 2 contains multiple paths that I want to make holes in. But when using pathfinder-remove front shape it just create a compound path that isnt a hole all the way through. Any idea?
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Community Expert , Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

Johan,

 

I believe the easy way out is to:

 

1) Group the two black paths in Layer 5;

2) Select everything in both Layer 5 and Layer 2, then in the Transparancy panel click Make (Opacity) Mask, with both Clip and Invert Mask unticked..

 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 11, 2023 Aug 11, 2023

I want the logo to be like this:

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Community Expert ,
Aug 11, 2023 Aug 11, 2023

And the white is what? a shape? A stroke?

If it's a shape, then you have to make a compound path from the 2 shapes and the white

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 11, 2023 Aug 11, 2023

Everything that is set to visible is a path

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Community Expert ,
Aug 11, 2023 Aug 11, 2023

Of course. But is it a white shape or a fat stroke? Can you please apply a color to it so it is visible in the layers panel?

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 11, 2023 Aug 11, 2023

It is a path which is filled, if that is the answer.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 11, 2023 Aug 11, 2023

Can you please upload the file somewhaere and post a link here?

it's easier to just do it than having to guess.

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

It wont let me attach my file so here is a drive link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DWnhbOhRzYI7jYSp-JoHuRxtR_TXk8Av/view?usp=sharing
Let me know if there is any issue

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Community Expert ,
Aug 11, 2023 Aug 11, 2023

The two black shapes you have selected in your example image need to be combined with the outer white shape as a Compound Path (Object menu>Compound Path>Make Compound). That's what will make the two shapes knock "holes" through the outer white shape.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

That's what I told him, but it seems to not work for some reason.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

If nothing works, the OP could select everything and create a Live Paint group with the Live Paint tool. Then fill the two (black) areas with the colour [None] and then dissolve the Live Paint group afterwards.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

IMHO it possible to use Shape Builder here? What you think? Did you try?

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Community Expert ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

In over 35 years have solved this issued 1000s of times. Best to remove all groups, compound paths or masks and then try.

 

  • Select the outside XP shape with the soldi pointer , and look inside of appearance. what does it say., Remvoe anything until it says path.
  • Select the 2 inside XP shapes, and give itthemany color like orange. this will help you proof your layering si correct. Release any groups, compound paths or masks.
  • Select all black and orange shapes. You can now use either pathfinder, or make compound. Teh orange goes away so never matters what color it was.
  • I woudl delete the white shapes and stroke your now good XP black shape white 
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Community Expert ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

Johan,

 

I believe the easy way out is to:

 

1) Group the two black paths in Layer 5;

2) Select everything in both Layer 5 and Layer 2, then in the Transparancy panel click Make (Opacity) Mask, with both Clip and Invert Mask unticked..

 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

As a beginner this helped. Thanks alot!

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Community Expert ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023
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For my part you are welcome, Johan.

 

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Community Expert ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

But I believe a better way, for the next task, or for this task is to (always back up the artwork before doing something destructive (or silly) as here):

 

1) Delete the white paths;

2) Group the two black paths in Layer 5, then move them to Layer 2 (You can cut (Ctrl/Cmd+X), then switch to Layer 2 and paste in front (Ctrl/Cmd+F)), then delete the empty Layer 5;

3) Select the black Group and the black XP path, then apply Minus front/Subtract from shape area);

 

This ought to give you the proper shape of the XP with counters (holes) as a Compound Path;

 

4) Perform either of the following or something similar:

4a) Give the Compound Path XP from 3) a white stroke with a Stroke Weight of twice the desired width of whiteness round the blackness, then drag the Stroke down beneath the Fill in the Appearance panel; this will give you a single (compound) path with both fill and stroke;

4b) Select the Compound Path XP from 3)and apply Object>Path>Offset Path with an offset equalling the desired width of whiteness round the blackness; this will give you a filled white (compound) path behind the filled black one from 3).

 

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Community Expert ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

There are too many objects in the layers panel and I'm still not sure that there aren't any duplicates.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

Hi @Monika Gause 

Exactly my opinion. That's why - as already written - I would recommend Live Paint.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 12, 2023 Aug 12, 2023

Select All and Alt click with the Shape Builder tool (as Ares suggested) works (group the result).

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