Document dimensions changes from AI to PDF

[nwarmour8]

When creating a PDF from AI, the doc dmensions (8.5 x 14) is larger in the PDF version. Why is this and how can I correct ot?

[Monika Gause]

Can you please tell us how you open the PDF and where you read the dimensions. Please show a screenshot.

Also: how do you create the PDF using which options?

[nwarmour8]

I created the PDF through Illustrator by "save as." I read the dimensions by "showing" the ruler in Acrobat,

 

[Monika Gause]

Please check the size of the PDF boxes in Acrobat.

[nwarmour8]

Thanks for responding. What do you mean by "boxes?"

[Ton Frederiks]

And what do the Print Production Page Boxes show?

[nwarmour8]

Thanks for your question. What do you mean by Print Production Boxes?

[Monika Gause]

There are boxes in the PDF, that define the areas: media, objects, bleed, etc.  https://docs.cloudprinter.com/client/pdf-page-boxes-explained/

[nwarmour8]

Thanks. Ok, now that what the boxes are, how do I "see" or "turn-on" those boxes on my PDF.

[nwarmour8]

Thanks for your patience. Now that I'm getting the lingo down, here's more info. When I was in AI and "saved as" to a PDF, I did check the boxes to put the trim lines in for the printer. I assumed that the trim lines, would produce an 8.5" x 14" document, but they do not. more like 8 3/4 x 14 1/4.

[Ton Frederiks]

And: https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/print-production-tools-overview-acrobat.html

[nwarmour8]

Tonm thanks for your help. I don;t know if you can see Monika's commenrts and my replies to her. Hetre's what I said to her (she asked similar questions as you did) -"When I was in AI and "saved as" to a PDF, I did check the boxes to put the trim lines in for the printer. I assumed that the trim lines, would produce an 8.5" x 14" document, but they do not. more like 8 3/4 x 14 1/4."

[Ton Frederiks]

What does the Art Box show in Acrobat?

[nwarmour8]

The art box shows .458 for all dimensions.

[Monika Gause]

So the printers marks enlarge the media size. Is that an issue in your production? Most printers ask to not include the marks in the PDF. What about your printer?

[nwarmour8]

Our printer asked for the trim marks. But, again, the trim marks still do not produce an 8.5 x 14.

[Monika Gause]

Please show screenshots of the document setup, of the export setup and of the resulting boxes.

[nwarmour8]

Below is the documernt set-up.  I was not  exporting the document; rather, I was doing a "save as" a PDF.

  

 

"save as" a pdf.

[Monika Gause]

And how does that look in Acrobat?

How large is the AI document?

[nwarmour8]

The AI document, which is a template from NextDay Flyers, is 8 1/2  x 14 at the trim line.

[Ton Frederiks]

With your setup I get 8.5 x 14

[nwarmour8]

That's interesting. I get 8.750 x 14.25

 

[Ton Frederiks]

I get that with the Bleed box.

[nwarmour8]

When you got the 8.5 x 14, what were the four boxes set at: Crop (?); Art(?); Trim(.458); Bleed (?). Say, Ican;t tell how helpful this has been for me. Thanks.

[Ton Frederiks]

Art and Trim gave the 8.5 x 14. Good to hear that was helpful.