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Kopy-Rite
Participating Frequently
June 4, 2013

I have taken to following every Adobe pay-per-click ad I can find... facebook, etc... hoping that I will click on one that reveals Adobe will reverse course on the rent-for-life plan and become customer-centric once again.

So far, no luck.  Anyone else have any luck?

CarlosCanto
Community Expert
CarlosCantoCommunity Expert
Community Expert
June 4, 2013

they should have official news about it "shortly" as per their blog post posted a few posts above

_scott__
_scott__Author
Legend
June 4, 2013

Well now the forum cache isn't updating for me. I can's see recent replies unless I post something.

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nightshadow_1
Participant
May 7, 2013

Adobe... So you just want to tell us old, loyal customers to get lost?  Those of us who are now retired or disabled, and helped make you what you are today...  but we are now fools because you want to fight piracy?

Yes... we are the fools... We bought your product even when we could have pirated them, but now, in order to fight the pirates, you will not let us continue to own these products... after so many years?

The priates are already laughing at us!

I am now disabled/retired and can't afford a monthly fee... and I do not have an ongoing, reliable internet connection... I haven't even been able to upload ONE (1) large Tiff file so my friends could access it. but now you expect me to use the cloud for... everything?  What BS!

This is crap!  Pure extortion!

You have had your people talk for how long about converting our RAW files to your "forever, available, format."  Now you are saying that (in the future) if we have LR, with one version of ACR and CS6 with an old one, because we can't afford your monthly subscription fees, then we will be SOL?

Is this what you mean?

I don't like lawyers, but I think they will have a field day with this...

    JETalmage
    JETalmage
    Inspiring
    May 7, 2013

    ...because you want to fight piracy?

    Nightshadow,

    This isn't about piracy. It's about flattening and broadening the revenue stream. Creative Coolaid users can't elect to skip versions which they deem unworthy of the price. They'll become more "captive" to Adobe than ever before. Adobe doesn't have to ship disks or print packaging; just put it on a server, continue using cookies to bombard everyone online with ads, and charge whatever the suckers who buy into it will pay to be forever at Adobe's mercy. It's every monolithic software vendor's dream: Continuous Charging of Captive Customers.

    It's just like the nonsense about "In a community of creative experts, Help is not a document" tripe. Gag me. That bit of Creative Copy writing is about shrugging the burden of customer support and proper documentation onto the customers themselves.

    JET

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    Wade_Zimmerman1
    Inspiring
    May 7, 2013

    I wonder if Adobe introduces features and new services that you find you need if that will change your position on this?

    JETalmage
    JETalmage
    Inspiring
    May 7, 2013

    I don't know why it feels like sad news

    Probably because those of us who aren't interested in monthly software subscription fees have just been written off by Adobe.

    Corel, ACD, and Xara should be glad to hear it.

    JET

    _scott__
    _scott__Author
    Legend
    May 7, 2013

    At least I don't need to budget for CS7 this year. I can just use CS6 until the wheels fall off, then begrudgingly subscribe if needed.

    JETalmage
    JETalmage
    Inspiring
    May 7, 2013

    At least I don't need to budget for CS7 this year.

    Same here. I'll be sending less than half of what I've been sending Adobe for each version upgrade of CS to Corel for an overdue upgrade to the Draw Technical Suite--and be happier, to boot, with the greater empowerment I gain from it in terms of significant and practical functionality.

    JET

    CarlosCanto
    Community Expert
    CarlosCantoCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    May 6, 2013

    I don't know why it feels like sad news

    should we be exited instead about the new CC features?

    http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/features.html

    K
    Kopy-Rite
    Participating Frequently
    May 6, 2013

    I will certainly be looking for an alternative to a lifetime of extortion from Adobe.

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    Dreia Melinkoff
    Participant
    May 6, 2013

    It may not be worth it for some casual users or even some pro users. I became a CC subscriber because I wanted access to to the app, UI, and ebook creation tools. For my design, personal creative, and photo editing work, my use of Illustrator and Photoshop has not really exploited any new feature added since Photoshop 7. It's probably the same for a lot of users.

    In the end, it's all about looking at - honestly - how you use the product and what you will get out of keeping on top of every new upgrade. 

    MW Design
    MW Design
    Inspiring
    May 18, 2013

    I appreciate the other developers wanting to break into the Mac market by piggy-backing on some other software. In the end, that is not a real solution. I have Parallels, and yes I can run Windows-based software through it. However, adding an OS platform is simply undue overhead. I can not fathom spending my day in Parallels to work. That's silly. I use a Mac because I like the Mac OS. If, due to Adobe's anti-customer policy, I'm going to have to move to Windows-based solutions, in the long run, it will be less expensive and performace will be better by simply moving to an actual Windows-based platform. Windows 7 is actually a pretty nice OS. But there are still a mountain of items I dislike about Windows in general.

    Perhaps the other software developers are now kicking themselves for ignoring the Mac Platform? Who knows. I've been a Mac user for more than 30 years, I seriously doubt I'll suffer through Windows for creative software. There are solutions which ARE Mac-based. Maybe not as good. But I just can't see spending hudreds of dollars on software only to run it via a "emulator" for another OS. (I realize it's not really an emulator in the strictest sense.)

    Even on the Mac Inkscape is annoying due to the X11 platform need. Well that and the svg core.

    The sad truth is, for Mac users, there's Adobe at the top of the pyramyd, then there's all the others in the stone pits below. There's nothing mid-pyramid. And there is no substitute for Photoshop if you need CMYK support.

    I'm sticking with CS6 until it will no longer run. Or until an actual Mac solution is developed. On the bright side there's at least another year, if not two or three, before CS6 is no longer a viable solution. We've all passed on an Adobe upgrade before and not suffered because of it. I'm simply choosing to pass on Adobe's current upgrade offer because, contrary to Adobe's apparent belief, I have a brain and understand it's a poor choice for my business. If, at some point I need some special CC feature for a client, then I'll subscribe for 1 month, get the project done, back-save to CS6, and pass along costs. I won't be a perpetual source of monthly income for Adobe EVER.

    I'd jump at the chance to install Draw or Xara on my Mac and run it as a Mac application. But If I'm forced to jump through hoops for those developers, how is that bettering my position? It's merely changing who owns the hoops.


    Scott, have you downloaded the Mac trial of PhotoLine? CMYK support is just fine.

    I do agree--other than a want to upgrade at every opportunity, CS6 will serve my true needs for some time to come and no one really needs to switch "now" if CS6 is meeting needs.

    Best regards, Mike

    MW Design
    MW Design
    Inspiring
    May 6, 2013

    Probably inevitable. CS6 will be the last version for me.

    Take care, Mike

    RaviKiran
    Adobe Employee
    RaviKiran
    Adobe Employee
    May 7, 2013

    Guys,  just head over to http://tv.adobe.com/watch/inside-creative-cloud/the-myths-of-adobe-creative-cloud/ to clear your misconceptions.

    rcraighead
    rcraighead
    Legend
    May 7, 2013

    What I heard on the video is that I cannot run more than one version of AI from CC. When I upgrade it sounds like I'll lose the ability to work in an earlier version from CC. Am I wrong?

    I am currently paying for CC even though I am not able to use AICS6 in my workflow because of bugs. It is over one year and nothing has changed. According to the "Myth" video I will be force to "upgrade" to the latest version after one year, whether the bugs are fixed or not.

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