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Kopy-Rite
Participating Frequently
June 4, 2013

I have taken to following every Adobe pay-per-click ad I can find... facebook, etc... hoping that I will click on one that reveals Adobe will reverse course on the rent-for-life plan and become customer-centric once again.

So far, no luck.  Anyone else have any luck?

CarlosCanto
Community Expert
CarlosCantoCommunity Expert
Community Expert
June 4, 2013

they should have official news about it "shortly" as per their blog post posted a few posts above

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Anonymous
September 6, 2013

@Markusaker - the only proof I have is that I nor any of my clients are running with Cloud storage, or even the Cloud control panel running as an active or background process. We have also turned off auto updates for fear of unattended borking of our production machines, as well as do NOT use any of the TypeKit fonts because we have spent in the many $1000's to own our fonts.

We do have the advantage of admin privileges on our machines though, which may or may not be your biggest problem. As far as I know, Adobe has for many versions required you to install using an admin account, and then go into a locked user account later.

And IMHO, if your IT dept. knew what they were doing, and you really do need to have CC rather than say CS6, someone would have the authority at your business to make it happen. Even if for the time it takes for the installation, roughly 30 minutes for the entire suite. Just sayin'.

Also... just to point it out: see what I mean with staying on track with the CC discussion? Everyone and his dog has a theory and point of attack why CC is wrong. Without attacking shareholders, investor or manager corruption, wild-eyed theories of contempt for their customers... it would be nice to bring a solid user-backed movement with 1... ONE!... goal and message: give us the right to purchase a perpetual license if we want... and in many cases... NEED to! The constant sarcastic vitriol does NOT, and is NOT... getting results! So can we please try something different?

Sorry, but the uninterruptable First-World-B****ing & Moaning is truly nauseous some days. I don't know about you folks, but I am so tickled most days that we have this powerful stuff at our fingertips, and that it's half-way affordable. Actually a downright steal. I cut my own Rubylith for many years, before moving to a 30k Quantel Paintbox. These days it's around $800/year for "high tech production" exclusive of the machine. Less than many people's habits of one kind or another, many of which will probably end up killing 'em some day. Just a view with perspective.


Basically, all I want is to be able to buy an upgrade with a perpetual licence. The rental scheme does not work for me at all.

Meantime I am sticking with CS6, hoping either that Adobe will agree with me (and 10,000s of others) or that alternative non-Adobe non-subscription software is available for Macs. So far found a couple and I think some software vendors may be upping their already pretty good stuff (OmniGraffle for instance) in the next year or so.

So, time to let Adobe know ad nauseam we are not happy, and to sit tight and wait for developments...

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nightshadow_1
Participant
May 7, 2013

Adobe... So you just want to tell us old, loyal customers to get lost?  Those of us who are now retired or disabled, and helped make you what you are today...  but we are now fools because you want to fight piracy?

Yes... we are the fools... We bought your product even when we could have pirated them, but now, in order to fight the pirates, you will not let us continue to own these products... after so many years?

The priates are already laughing at us!

I am now disabled/retired and can't afford a monthly fee... and I do not have an ongoing, reliable internet connection... I haven't even been able to upload ONE (1) large Tiff file so my friends could access it. but now you expect me to use the cloud for... everything?  What BS!

This is crap!  Pure extortion!

You have had your people talk for how long about converting our RAW files to your "forever, available, format."  Now you are saying that (in the future) if we have LR, with one version of ACR and CS6 with an old one, because we can't afford your monthly subscription fees, then we will be SOL?

Is this what you mean?

I don't like lawyers, but I think they will have a field day with this...

    JETalmage
    JETalmage
    Inspiring
    May 7, 2013

    ...because you want to fight piracy?

    Nightshadow,

    This isn't about piracy. It's about flattening and broadening the revenue stream. Creative Coolaid users can't elect to skip versions which they deem unworthy of the price. They'll become more "captive" to Adobe than ever before. Adobe doesn't have to ship disks or print packaging; just put it on a server, continue using cookies to bombard everyone online with ads, and charge whatever the suckers who buy into it will pay to be forever at Adobe's mercy. It's every monolithic software vendor's dream: Continuous Charging of Captive Customers.

    It's just like the nonsense about "In a community of creative experts, Help is not a document" tripe. Gag me. That bit of Creative Copy writing is about shrugging the burden of customer support and proper documentation onto the customers themselves.

    JET

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    Wade_Zimmerman1
    Inspiring
    May 7, 2013

    I wonder if Adobe introduces features and new services that you find you need if that will change your position on this?

    JETalmage
    JETalmage
    Inspiring
    May 7, 2013

    I don't know why it feels like sad news

    Probably because those of us who aren't interested in monthly software subscription fees have just been written off by Adobe.

    Corel, ACD, and Xara should be glad to hear it.

    JET

    _scott__
    _scott__Author
    Legend
    May 7, 2013

    At least I don't need to budget for CS7 this year. I can just use CS6 until the wheels fall off, then begrudgingly subscribe if needed.

    JETalmage
    JETalmage
    Inspiring
    May 7, 2013

    At least I don't need to budget for CS7 this year.

    Same here. I'll be sending less than half of what I've been sending Adobe for each version upgrade of CS to Corel for an overdue upgrade to the Draw Technical Suite--and be happier, to boot, with the greater empowerment I gain from it in terms of significant and practical functionality.

    JET

    CarlosCanto
    Community Expert
    CarlosCantoCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    May 6, 2013

    I don't know why it feels like sad news

    should we be exited instead about the new CC features?

    http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/features.html

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    Kopy-Rite
    Participating Frequently
    May 6, 2013

    I will certainly be looking for an alternative to a lifetime of extortion from Adobe.

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    Dreia Melinkoff
    Participant
    May 6, 2013

    It may not be worth it for some casual users or even some pro users. I became a CC subscriber because I wanted access to to the app, UI, and ebook creation tools. For my design, personal creative, and photo editing work, my use of Illustrator and Photoshop has not really exploited any new feature added since Photoshop 7. It's probably the same for a lot of users.

    In the end, it's all about looking at - honestly - how you use the product and what you will get out of keeping on top of every new upgrade. 

    _scott__
    _scott__Author
    Legend
    May 6, 2013

    My biggest issue with CC, is bugs.

    It's a common issue to find a bug. And to get around it you need to use an older version you have installed. That will no longer be possible in the near future. Everyone may be at the mercy of the same bugs.

    MW Design
    MW Design
    Inspiring
    May 6, 2013

    Probably inevitable. CS6 will be the last version for me.

    Take care, Mike

    RaviKiran
    Adobe Employee
    RaviKiran
    Adobe Employee
    May 7, 2013

    Guys,  just head over to http://tv.adobe.com/watch/inside-creative-cloud/the-myths-of-adobe-creative-cloud/ to clear your misconceptions.

    rcraighead
    rcraighead
    Legend
    May 7, 2013

    What I heard on the video is that I cannot run more than one version of AI from CC. When I upgrade it sounds like I'll lose the ability to work in an earlier version from CC. Am I wrong?

    I am currently paying for CC even though I am not able to use AICS6 in my workflow because of bugs. It is over one year and nothing has changed. According to the "Myth" video I will be force to "upgrade" to the latest version after one year, whether the bugs are fixed or not.

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