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double cut line in eps file for roland versaworks

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December 18, 2017
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Hey,
I use illustrator cc to create cutting lines to be processed with roland versaworks. line thickness 0.25 and I safe this as an eps file adobe postscript language level 3.

When I open this file with versaworks I sometimes have a dubble cutting lines, close to each other.

This is not always the case
How is this or what am I doing wrong?

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Correct answer Ton Frederiks

I see the problem but how do I solve it.

Without removing the drop shadow effect ?

Hide the cutline.

Select All.

Choose Object Flatten Transparency.

Show the cutline and save as EPS

Artistic Printers

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I have noticed that if you have it set to the left or the right it does a double cut, if you keep it on centered it will not. In my expeirence at least. So might need to make a slight bleed when you save the file to print. I suggest saving it as a pdf and send. I also have noticed if you set it to a thicker point size, it seems to cut deeper.

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craigs72791106

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So I know this is an old post but I do have another fix for the double cut line problem of the CutContour path in eps files saved from illustrator. As Ton Fredericks mentioned, this problem is due to transparency flattening with the CutContour visible during the flattening process. By default, strokes are converted to outlines which is why Ton recommends hiding it before flattening. Then unhiding it before saving it so it doesn't get converted.

But if you have a file with transparencies as well as a cut line and just want to save the file, you can with an adjustment to the transparency setting in the save as process ... which is what I do.

There's a transparency flattening setting that converts strokes to outlines when the file is flattened during the save process. When you select save as and choose eps ... the next screen is where you can choose the transparency setting that needs to be altered. The preset is usually set to medium or high resolution. Click the "Custom Button" and deselect (uncheck) the box that says "Convert All Strokes to Outlines". Click Okay and okay again to save your file. Now any printer RIP Program that uses the "CutContour" path for cutting will remain a single line. When the path was getting converted, the stroke or path becomes a compounded object with a fill. Also, you'll want to make sure you don't have your cut path selected if you are manually converting your objects to outlines ("expanding") before saving files for print. Programs like Versaworks and Onyx use CutContour for cutting.

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Bobby Henderson

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I haven't used Roland VersaWorks in, wow, almost a decade. We retired our Roland VersaCAMM printer and bought one and then two HP Latex printers with Onyx Thrive as the RIP. Anyway, after all these years has Roland done anything to improve how PDF files are handled in VersaWorks? When we were using it if a PDF had any transparency effects in it we couldn't get a CutContour path to light up as a cut line in the software. I would either have to flatten transparency in Illustrator or even rasterize the artwork (using either Illustrator or Photoshop) and position the CutContour line over that. The same problems would occur with placed TIFF or PSD imagery that had imagery floated on multiple layers. The stuff had to be flattenend to get the CutContour path to show the "marching ants" in VersaWorks.

Anyway, if VersaWorks is better at handling PDF files now it would be better to use that rather than EPS. The PDF format supports transparency.

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amz.m

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Your're a true life saver! I've been looking for the answer to this for soo long T_T

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INCON15644633

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I have found that if the stroke is aligned to the outside - and not center that it may also cause a double cut line.

jordanw62458584

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I am having the same exact problem and do not know how to fix it at all. I put the cut-line on the file that I need then when I go to put it into a eps and then to versaworks I open it and check it there is still a double cut-line. How do I get ride of it because my work deals with a lot of cut-lines so I need to figure out a solution.

Monika Gause

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I am having the same exact problem and do not know how to fix it at all. I put the cut-line on the file that I need then when I go to put it into a eps and then to versaworks I open it and check it there is still a double cut-line. How do I get ride of it because my work deals with a lot of cut-lines so I need to figure out a solution.

Without knowing your file nobody will be able to help you.

jordanw62458584

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What do you mean because it happens to all my files when i go to put a cutline on it?

saulc72992078

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I need to try it... but i cant really imagine it was such a "stupid" thing... I mean i even redo the logo as didnt know what i was doing wrong.. still dont now why i have a compound path... in any case many thanks!! i will do as u mention tomorrow in the office! many thanks!

saulc72992078

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Hello!

I have the same issue, but I believe I dont have any transparencies. in any case I followed Ton Frederiks instructions and still have the same issue...

I have uploaded the latest file. If you guys could help me out... I would be very grateful

https://drive.google.com/open?id=15s_llITOu8yLpFKz01kUVyidaODZMmM1

Ton Frederiks

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Your eps does not contain transparency because an eps does not support transparency.

But for your file the solution is simple:

Select the Layer 3, it contains a Compound Path.

Select it and choose: Object > Compound Path > Release.

The result is 2 paths, delete the bottom one from the Layers panel.

Loic.Aigon

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Ton+Frederiks a écrit
Your eps does not contain transparency because an eps does not support transparency

Not exactly true. PostScript language doesn't support Transparency I agree. However, an Illustrator EPS file as a compatible Illustrator PDF file is a composite file embedding two types of data : native and postscript data.

If you re-open this file in Illustrator (given that the file was initially saved by Illustrator, the app will read the native data and so you will be able to retrieve any out of ps feature such as transparencies, drop shadows, filters…

If you open the file outside of AI, the converted data will be read. Those data were written when saving the AI EPS File and this is where paths were outlined as some transparency needed to be flattened.

This is actually this transparency that lead to paths being outlined.

Loic.Aigon

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Opt in for a PDF workflow if possible. Otherwise you will have to do what @Ton_Frederiks suggested.

If you have hundreds of those file, you may want to automate the conversion process, feel free to get in touch at ozalto.com for a deeper study.

Monika Gause

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Are you sure you didn't apply a brush stroke?

Or a variable width profile?

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stef15071970Author

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I am sure this is not the case.

Monika Gause

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stef15071970 schrieb
I am sure this is not the case.

You will need to post an AI file and the corresponding EPS so we can have a look at it.

Loic.Aigon

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It might be that the file contains transparency and that the transparency flattener is set to outline strokes. So when you save as EPS, you actually outline those strokes.

I might be wrong but that could be a valuable explanation to me.

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stef15071970Author

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I do not think that it is in this case due to a transparency setting.

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