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Fonts no longer supported in illustrator 20222

Forum|Forum|3 years ago
November 18, 2022
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Hello!

when i open a work i've made earlier (2021, 2020, ...) some text is completely gone.

Adobe has previously issued notifications regarding older fonts that would no longer be supported from January 2023. Is there a possibility to continue using these 'older' fonts?
Very annoying if this happens to all documents of a customer where the house style is based on such a font ... .

Should I install an Open Type version of the font to fix this? But the same thing happens with the Open Type version of Myriad Pro; all text disappeared from my document. This is awful, Adobe!

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Cheerful_amazement5C39

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Yeah this is why we have laws agains monopolies.
This is why the EU forced Apple to bring back their old chargers.
They did it because they can. Corporations dgaf

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Bobby Henderson

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Adobe is not a monopoly. Nearly all the applications they make have competing rivals. Adobe Illustrator has lots of competitors on Windows, MacOS and iPadOS platforms. There's CorelDRAW, Affinity Designer, Inkscape, Gravit Designer, Vectornator (aka Linearity Curve), Autodesk Graphic and lots of other upstarts.

Adobe Illustrator does have some unique features and effects its rivals either don't have or can't duplicate faithfully. Most corporate branding work is done using Illustrator. Depending on the artwork it can be difficult to accurately open/import Illustrator-generated files into applications like CorelDRAW or Affinity Designer without artwork elements breaking in some manner. The same thing can happen going the other direction, such as importing Corel-generated artwork into Adobe Illustrator.

Brad @ Roaring Mouse

Community Expert

If text is missing, that's not connected to the Type 1 issue anyway. Something else is at play. Let's try and figure out what that is. (Can you share a file?)

In any case, even if a font is missing, the copy should still be there, but highlighted and replaced with the default font (ironically, Myriad Pro).

By the way, I just opened an old (2008) file with what I know are Type 1 fonts, and v27 still opens it just fine (my font manager still loads the old fonts fine), but with the warning that come January 2023.

Since you've deleted your Suitcase, how are you loading your fonts now?

BartW-BatgraphicsAuthor

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When I look at the comments I also think more and more in the direction of font management, which is currently a bit of a disaster here. I currently have 2 systems on my iMac: Font Catalog (standard on iMac?) and FontExplorer X Pro 6 (6.0.5). To be honest, I rarely or never look into this... :-(. I'm going to have to work on this, I think, to solve the problems?
Which font management system do you recommend? Maybe I should also build a new system from scratch? I can't share the illustrator file ('...match its file extension and has been removed'). I share a screenshot of the file.does not

Monika Gause

Community Expert

I don't use any font management due to the issues they usually cause with Illustrator. I was just fed up with that.

Ton Frederiks

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There must be something else happening, Myriad Pro is already (and has always been) an OpenType font.

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Bobby Henderson

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Myriad had a Type 1 Multiple Master version and some standalone Type 1 styles like Myriad Tilt and Myriad Headline prior to the OTF version of Myriad Pro being released.

Ton Frederiks

Community Expert

Yes, there are many versions of Myrad. A PostScript Type1 version has been the default in Illustrator for years.

Monika Gause

Community Expert

It's not "older fonts", it's PostScript Type1 fonts that are no longer supported. The writing has been on the wall for quite some time. Operating systems no longer support these fonts.

You can of course keep an older system and then an older version of Illustrator and can update the documents as long as the computer doesn't fall apart.

I would suggest you update the font to OpenType - which means: license a new version of that font. This would also mean to update the documents and beware, because text might reflow and also some special characters might remap.

If you have issues with Myriad Pro then they might look the same, but are caused by something differently. This needs to be analyzed and please give us your system specifications, version of Illustrator. Do you use font management? Vanishing fonts is often caused by incompatible font management.

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Bobby Henderson

Community Expert

Postscript Type 1 fonts still work in the latest build of Windows 11 and still work in rival (non-Adobe) graphics applications. It's not clear how much longer such fonts will be able to run on that platform though. It's not always practical or even possible to buy an OpenType replacement of an old Type 1 fonts package. Some companies, such as FontLab Ltd, do make font conversion software.

I still don't understand why Adobe is killing support for Postscript Type 1 fonts. Adobe invented Postscript. Early versions of Adobe Illustrator (and other Adobe apps like PageMaker) included packages of Type 1 fonts. Heck, I still have old floppies from Illustrator 4.0 that included a bunch of Berthold "BE" fonts like Akzidenz Grotesk.

Monika Gause

Community Expert

I still don't understand why Adobe is killing support for Postscript Type 1 fonts. Adobe invented Postscript.

By @Bobby Henderson

This explains it pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2X_DZRN66o

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