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Inspiring
May 6, 2025
Question

Group without grouping!

  • May 6, 2025
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Hi,

I have an object with items in multiple layers. For the sake of aligning it with other objects, I would need to group it or turn it into a symbol. However, both of these options move all items in the object into a single layer. Is there a simple way of having the object behave as a group (for the sake of aligning it) without grouping it? In other words, I would like to keep all the items in the layers where they are, but be able to align the object as a whole.

This is for CS4.

Thanks.

3 replies

Community Expert
May 6, 2025

Here's another idea: select the object you want to use as an alignment target and take note of its numerical position on the art board. That can be seen in the Transform panel. You can change the Reference Point on the 9 point icon to get a horizontal or vertical position. Select the objects that are on different layers and then enter that same horizontal or vertical axis position in the Transform panel. The selected objects will move to that new position. They will be aligned with the target object, yet remain on separate layers. 

Kurt Gold
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 6, 2025

Sergey Anosov has a very nice script that may be a thrilling starting point for you to modify it according to your specific needs.

 

Take a look here:

 

https://sites.google.com/site/dtpscripting/illustrator-scripts/positiononartboard?authuser=0

 

Then take a look at the "Move like a group" option.

Jacob Bugge
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 6, 2025

s,

 

The solution is Save Selection in the Select dropdown:

 

1) Select all the objects across Layers;

2) In the Select dropdown click Save Selection and give it a name;

 

Whenever you need to select the Saved Selection, you can just:

 

3) Click the given name in the Select dropdown and enjoy.

 

 

It works in CS4.

 

 

sPretzelAuthor
Inspiring
May 6, 2025

Hi Jacob,

Thanks for your suggestion. I had not thought of it. I tried it but it merely saves the selection, as it says. Then I recall it and everything is selected just as I saved it. But if I align the selection to another object, then every item aligns individually to that object. So it doesn't turn the selection into a single unit. In that sense, Save Selection doesn't behave like Group.

Jacob Bugge
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 6, 2025

Sorry, s, I was too hasty, and overlooked the alignment bit.

 

Pondering.