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Having trouble with overprint

Community Beginner ,
Mar 16, 2017 Mar 16, 2017

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Hi there.

I'm having trouble with overprint.

I Thought I new how to do it, yet this logo proved me wrong.

Please take a look at my pics and thanks in advance for helping.

Regards,

Eduardo.

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Community Expert , Mar 16, 2017 Mar 16, 2017

Eduardo, how is this job printing  I see this as 3 color job either way:

  • PMS Yellow, PMS Orange, Black
  • Yellow, Magenta, black

I am not sure what you desire for this to look like when this prints, where the black "v" overlaps the "z"

You also do not want to overprint the same color, that will barely get any darker, just will remove pinholing (kind of like painting a wall with a second coat of paint).

Where you have yellow Z over yellow Z. In spot color you would fill those with a spot orange, since th

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Mar 16, 2017 Mar 16, 2017

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I'm supposed to write in english, right?

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Mar 16, 2017 Mar 16, 2017

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Maybe you misunderstand overprinting. It can get confusing at times:

https://www.wideformatonline.com/workshops/colour-management/2796-understanding-overprint.html

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 17, 2017 Mar 17, 2017

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Hello Monika, thanks for helping.

Regards,

Eduardo.

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Mar 16, 2017 Mar 16, 2017

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Eduardo, how is this job printing  I see this as 3 color job either way:

  • PMS Yellow, PMS Orange, Black
  • Yellow, Magenta, black

I am not sure what you desire for this to look like when this prints, where the black "v" overlaps the "z"

You also do not want to overprint the same color, that will barely get any darker, just will remove pinholing (kind of like painting a wall with a second coat of paint).

Where you have yellow Z over yellow Z. In spot color you would fill those with a spot orange, since the colors are similar you color overprint orange on top of yellow, rather than trap.

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 17, 2017 Mar 17, 2017

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Hi Mike.

Congrats, that  was thinking "outside the box" indeed.

I'll do as you suggested, thank you.

Is overprint preview reliable?

I mean PANTONE yellow over black (I reduced black tint 50% underneath

yellow).

And will Multiply (CMYK files) also be what we'll get after printing?

Regards,

Eduardo

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Mar 17, 2017 Mar 17, 2017

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It is best not to mix overprint and transparency in the same job. You can use transparency to simulate overprint but don't expect normal overprint to work in the same file.

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Mar 17, 2017 Mar 17, 2017

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Thanks.

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Mar 17, 2017 Mar 17, 2017

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Overprint is entirely reliable, I have never specified overprint and not had that work as expected.

I personally prefer to use multiply  in the transparency palette. For example one of you designers picsk up a packaging design to do a flavor extension, they change the black type to white, because this flavor has a dark background, they release the file to the printer and the white type disappears. So with the transparency you do not have to worry about someone menacing a mistake because they did not have overprint preview on.

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