How do I disable 3D from Envelope Distort?

[Chris P. Bacon]

I only want 2D envelope distort.

[Monika Gause]

Envelope distort is not associated with 3D.

Are you referring to the bending? You can edit the envelope and adjust it using the direct selection tool or the gradient mesh tool.

[Chris P. Bacon]

I cannot edit it with the direct selection tool, because the shape is already filled, so I cannot modify it further.

I need it in that exact shape.

It's 3D simulation.

It's clearly visible that envelope distort simulates 3D.

[Monika Gause]

As long as it hasn't been expanded, a mesh can be edited. Even if there is already something in it.

[Chris P. Bacon]

I got no mesh because I made it with the top object, and that creates no mesh.

Yes I could edit inner points of the mesh if it would be a mesh, but I cannot edit the mesh points on the edges because the shape is filled as I wanted, I just wanted it 2D text fill, not 3D.

[Monika Gause]

Make with top object also creates a mesh. https://shared-assets.adobe.com/link/7c723fc8-fdc9-463e-4346-7fb542e756a5

I have made a video about better envelopes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXMHWDRcv_g

[Chris P. Bacon]

Using the reset envelope mesh option I don't get the "flat appearance" setting like in your video.

Apperently that would ensure that it will not do any 3D simulation.

My shape was 2D, so there's no point to make it 3D.

[Chris P. Bacon]

Envelope distort creates 3D surfaces out of 2D, but theoretically it's possible to fill the shape with 2d distorsions only, too.

[Monika Gause]

Envelope does not create 3D surfaces.

That look is caused by the shape of your mesh. With that specific shape of the mesh it will always look like it's a 3D object. You will probably need to be more cautious when preparing the mesh. You might need to draw a mesh for each line of text separately in order to shape them exactly how you want them to look.

[Chris P. Bacon]

Yes I realized that drawing a shape for each row, sometimes for each word minimizes the distorsions, while still filling the space.