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How to use Pantone Connect to find closest PMS match.

Community Beginner ,
Jan 06, 2023 Jan 06, 2023

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I'm a prepress designer who works with premade artwork and who sometimes needs to find out what the closest PMS color in a piece of artwork is. Since Adobe got rid of the Pantone color books, I can no longer do that, as far as I can tell anyway. Using Pantone Connect I can pick a PMS color to apply to the art but I don't know how to find the closest PMS match for a color that is already in the artwork.

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Community Expert , Jan 07, 2023 Jan 07, 2023

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Try this:

Install (or go to if still installed) an older version of Illustrator like 2022 (CC app > Apps > All Apps > Illustrator > click the 3 dots … > Other Versions)

Go the Illustrator 2022 Application folder > Presets > (your language folder) > Swatches > Color Books > and make a copy of PANTONE+ Solid Coated.acb and PANTONE+ Solid Uncoated.acb 

Keep them in a safe place and copy them to the same location in the Illustrator 2023 application folder.

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Jan 06, 2023 Jan 06, 2023

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The [physical] Pantone color books are still available. I believe you are referring to the Swatch libraries. 

 

I would open the image in Photoshop, eyedrop the color, and while in the color panel, change to Color Libraries. You will see the closest Pantone solid color. (Note: you may have to load the Pantone libraries from a previous version of Photoshop.)

 

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 06, 2023 Jan 06, 2023

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Tried loading a backup file into Photoshop and Illustrator but the newer versions don't like the filetype, uunfortunately. Just going to have to revert back to previous versions. Definitely appreciate the quick response though. Thanks man.

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Jan 07, 2023 Jan 07, 2023

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What went wrong?

Try this:

Install (or go to if still installed) an older version of Illustrator like 2022 (CC app > Apps > All Apps > Illustrator > click the 3 dots … > Other Versions)

Go the Illustrator 2022 Application folder > Presets > (your language folder) > Swatches > Color Books > and make a copy of PANTONE+ Solid Coated.acb and PANTONE+ Solid Uncoated.acb 

Keep them in a safe place and copy them to the same location in the Illustrator 2023 application folder.

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Jan 06, 2023 Jan 06, 2023

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Don't quote me on this because I don't have Pantone connect anymore, but it seems there is a matching system behind the paywall - on their website - where you can enter the HSL values and it returns the PMS swatch. It used to be free for everyone (I used it a lot) but I have been told that it's now part of the Adobe connect package.
Nothing integrated with illustrator as far as I know. It used to be called the Pantone X-ref tool.

 

Would this kind of thing help?
https://codebeautify.org/hex-to-pantone-converter
I understand it's not a very reliable answer 😁

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Jan 07, 2023 Jan 07, 2023

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Unfortunately the recolour artwork limited to a library is not available even with the pantone connect plug-in. The Pantone Connect app/website/plugin is behind the paywall to get cross refferences, so there is not way to convert except colour by colour, or using and older version of the software. The other problem is that Pantone can change their pigments and colour definitions so using an older software/method may not give the same resulr as if there was a new way to do this. It does increase our workload if this is one of the tasks we had… I feel your pain (and know that is not much of an answer).
Let's hope Pantone realises their mistake and let Adobe Users access their books in a better way. 

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If you just install the color book files from an older version, you can use them with recolor artwork.

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I did not get that to work, how old version are you talking about to get the colour books to work? If there was an Ai, Pdf or EPS file with pantone colours it can be used as a library.

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Jan 07, 2023 Jan 07, 2023

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As above posted:

Install (or go to if still installed) an older version of Illustrator like 2022 (CC app > Apps > All Apps > Illustrator > click the 3 dots … > Other Versions)

Go the Illustrator 2022 Application folder > Presets > (your language folder) > Swatches > Color Books > and make a copy of PANTONE+ Solid Coated.acb and PANTONE+ Solid Uncoated.acb 

Keep them in a safe place and copy them to the same location in the Illustrator 2023 application folder.

After that in Recolor Artwork choose Limit to Library from the Color Reduction Options.

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Jan 07, 2023 Jan 07, 2023

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It will work, as shown below in AI 27.1.1:

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Jan 07, 2023 Jan 07, 2023

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Also, not holding my breath for you, but this is how you contact Pantone for feature requests
support@pantone.com
Also the technical support here (for UK/EMEA, check for your country)
https://www.pantone.com/uk/en/contact-us

And if you're really cross 😁
01233 225450

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 09, 2023 Jan 09, 2023

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Appreciate all the responses to this for sure. Yeah it does seem the cross referencing function is behind a paywall, unfortunately. Best thing I found, for now, is to just revert back to an older version of Illustrator. Ver. 27.0 to be specific still has the Pantone color book and PMS numbers I need. 

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Jan 09, 2023 Jan 09, 2023

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And don't forget to make a copy of the .acb files for use in current and future application.

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Jan 13, 2023 Jan 13, 2023

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>>Best thing I found, for now, is to just revert back to an older version of Illustrator.

 

OR load the Swatch libraries into the new version as @Ton Frederiks has described a few times in this thread.

 

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