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davids52636861
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November 6, 2019
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Illustrator 2020: How to have Pantone with integral CMYK values (Legacy)? Was working in 2019

  • November 6, 2019
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My problem:

I work in the printing business and when we use Pantone colors, we need the colors to show in CMYK, not Lab. I was able to use the turnaround in all previous versions but not in 2020. Is there a way to do it in the new version?

I did this https://helpx.adobe.com/ca/illustrator/kb/pantone-plus.html in the past and it always worked. But not anymore.

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Monika Gause
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Monika GauseCommunity Expert
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November 6, 2019

Then you need to use a different library. You can't use the solid libraries if you need CMYK.

 

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    davids52636861Author
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    November 8, 2019

    I work in flexography printing, we're making flexo plates. Most of the time, like on 90% of the jobs, we receive files that have too many pantone colors. So, let's say, a printer can only print 8 colours on his press, we need to convert some Pantones into CMYK. But I need the Pantone with whole and accurate numbers. Before, I was able to just use the "Use CMYK values from the manufacturer's process books" option from "Spot Colors Option".

    Now, on Illustrator 2020, it doen't work. It was useful because sometimes clients come back later and ask us to make the 485 in Pantone and convert an other color to stay under the 8 colours limit. It was easy to revert with one click and convert the other one with one click.

    Because in our field, you want to print a Pantone 485 with 95% magenta and 100% yellow. Printing a 485 with 7.92% cyan, 97.1 magenta, 100 Yellow and 0.83% of black won't work.

    Monika Gause
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    Monika GauseCommunity Expert
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    November 19, 2019

    Sorry, I think You didn't understand:

    Here is Adobe workaround1 how to use OLDER pantone color books in Illustrator.

    https://helpx.adobe.com/ca/illustrator/kb/pantone-plus.html 

    Please find and read the "WORKAROUND1:" in linked page.

    We use the older pantone color books.

    The older pantone colors book have the CMYK definition, but start from Illustrator 2020 is not work.

     

    >>This is not a bug.

    If I make a "Copy-Paste" from one file to another (files have the same profiles, color mode e.t.c.) within an Illustrator and color composition changed, that how I can named this? "Change on a fly"?!


    The helpx document you linked to about importing the old libraries is old (it's about version CS6). It covers the CS6 to CC versions. Illustrator 2020 is not CC. Swatches libraries are software and software gets outdated. Pantone does no longer offer the old libraries.

     

    Just in case you have not read the complete document, it contains 2 important passages:

     

    When workflows demand that Pantone colors use CMYK values, Adobe recommends that you use the Pantone Plus Series® global colors instead of spot colors.

     

    and:

     

    It is not recommended to use older Pantone libraries to add new colors to a document.

     

    So you need to rethink your workflow. To repeat silk-m's question: Why don't you use the Color Bridge libraries?

     

     

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