Illustrator Save As PDF overwrites the original .Ai document

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Sep 27, 2021 Sep 27, 2021

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I create a normal AI document. Make my graphic and save it as an AI document. In the course of my work, I need to send something to my client and save the document save as .pdf.

As if by magic, the AI_Document has now become a pdf document. I have lost hours of work this way if you don't notice.

This stupid and absolutely not comprehensible behavior sucks. That's why I save the document: save as and don't just save the document.

For this behavior it now urgently needs a patch! Immediately! Thx

 

 

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Sep 27, 2021 Sep 27, 2021

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Well, that's how the illustrator works from many past versions...if you do not want the current document to change to .pdf then you should "save as copy" instead of "save as". 

 

Vishu Aggarwal
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Sep 28, 2021 Sep 28, 2021

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Thank you. I did not know that. Because Illustrator doesn't always do that.

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It is always best practice to save the original file as .ai and as @Vishu_Aggarwal states save a .pdf version seperately.

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To prevent that, use "Save a Copy" instead of save as. And then also give it a new name.

 

But what I don't really get: the original file should still be there, since when saving as a .pdf, you won't overwrite the .ai. So what has happened? You saved as PDF and then continued working? Did you save as PDF and turned off "Illustrator editability"?

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Sep 28, 2021 Sep 28, 2021

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Hi, I saved as PDF and then continued working? But because I didn't need all the graphics for the customer I deleted them and didn't save them in the AI document. My mistake. But it is still not a normal behavior of Illustrator. Thank anyway.

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It's a normal behaviour of "Save as". Save as will always keep the newly saved document open.

Whereas "Save a copy" keeps the original document open.

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How is it magic when you said you saved as .pdf - you are doing it.

Besides, your ai file should still be there - you can't overwrite a file with an.ai suffix with a file with a .pdf one, unless of course while in the process of saving your .pdf document you typed in a .ai suffix... but even so, you should have had a warning that you were about to overwrite an existing file.

The "absolutely not comprehensible behavior" is rooted in your working practice.

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Sep 27, 2021 Sep 27, 2021

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Hi there,

 

Sorry to hear about that. I agree with everyone's comment above. However, as you said, you have said you saved the file as .Ai document, and while you "Save as" PDF, it will not rewrite .Ai file. If you saved the PDF with the "Preserve Illustrator Editing Capabilities" option checked, you should be able to edit it unless the file is too complex or corrupted.

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Also, I would request you to share a few more details like:

  • Which OS and version of Illustrator is this?
  • Does this happen with other documents as well, or was it a specific case?
  • Does changing .PDF to .Ai or opening PDF in Illustrator you get editable layers?
  • Where are you saving the files (Network Drive/ System HDD/ Shared Folder on System/ External HDD)?

 

We will be looking forward to your response.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Anshul Saini

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Hello

Of course the AI document is still there when I save it to "save as". But because you then in Illustrator (and this behavior has only Illustrator and not always) suddenly continue to work in the pdf document and this is often not noticed then graphics are deliberately deleted and saved. These are then no longer present in the original file (ai) because I have made a new Dadei (pdf). That I then immediately continue working in this file is simply not normal for me.

- OS 11.5.2
- Yes, Iget editable layers
- Saving the files on System HDD

I know now how Illustrater works. Thanks for your help.

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Sep 30, 2021 Sep 30, 2021

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Thank you for sharing the details. I would suggest if you could also post it here (https://illustrator.uservoice.com/). This way, you will keep getting all the updates related to this request, and other users can also upvote, which would help us prioritize. Also, share the link here so others who visit this post can go to that link upvote the UserVoice, and I will forward it to the Product team. They may consider changing it in the future.

 

Regards,

Anshul Saini

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Borsellino,

 

A failsafe way to create a PDF with the limited purpose "to send something to my client" (and/or (to) obtain a small file size) is to Print it to Acrobat (or other PDF creating software).

 

That will certainly leave your AI document be.

 

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Feb 14, 2022 Feb 14, 2022

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Hi! 

Unfortunately in the 2021(and up) version of illustrator when you 'save as PDF' it makes the file you are working on the PDF, instead of keeping it on the original AI file.

I still have the 2020 version on my laptop computer where it does as you say- when I save a PDF it still allows me to work on the AI and saves the PDF as a different copy of the file.

 

I have the 2021 version on my work comp, and it doesn't allow me to save as a copy.

It's the newer updates.

No patch unfortunately.

 

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Jun 30, 2022 Jun 30, 2022

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The reason, from my experience, that it sometimes does this and sometimes doesn't, is based on whether you're saving the entire doc or just selected pages as a pdf. If you just do a smaller range of pages, the .ai doc is the one that remains open in illustrator. But if you save as a whole pdf, no matter the quality, the doc is now replaced by the pdf on your open program. 

I feel your pain though. I've had unnecessary problems come as a result of forgetting that I was suddenly working on the pdf and not the ai file any more. Thanks to those with the tip for "Save as a copy."

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