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Need help inlaying one font into another

Community Beginner ,
Aug 18, 2019 Aug 18, 2019

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I am trying to inlay one font into another so i can laser cut it. I can create what appears to be what I'm trying to obtain by merging the two fonts together and then converting to stroke, however there is an extra stroke line under everywhere the fonts overlap. I am laser cutting the the final product so I cannot have two lines (one under the other) because then the laser will cut the same spot two times. The first image is what i want it to look like. The second image is what image looks like after i merge the two together and create strokes (that's how i want to send it to my laser cutter). The third image shows the duplicate stroke (the "H") underneath the top font ("Hermany"). I just selected the "H" and moved it down so I could show the stroke underneath it. The fourth image shows what i want to delete or avoid from the start. I apologize if it is hard to understand.

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Community Expert , Aug 20, 2019 Aug 20, 2019

kphotopage  schrieb

Here I Outlined Type. Stroked with no Fill.

Select, Live Paint Stokes

Expand Live Paint.

No overlap or duplicate of strokes.

K

Live Paint Strokes.png

This.

I would do it like this:

1. Outline text, fill with white

2. Make live paint group

3. Select fill of none and triple click any white fill to change all the white fills to none

4. Expand

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Community Expert ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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go to object -> path -> outline stroke

then use the pathfinder again, you can also use the shape builder tool.

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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What do you mean use pathfinder again?

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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I recommend using the Shape Builder tool. Easy to use and practical.

Select all objects, simply drag with the mouse.

Ekran Resmi 2019-08-19 11.37.22.png

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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I don't want to combine everything though. I feel like there has to be a way to merge two fonts together and only have the stroke lines for the "top" text.

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Guide ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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well, I see here 2 in-mass colored forms, each cutted separately and then glued together. Aren't they?

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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They were cut out of one piece of plywood at the same time so they fit together like a puzzle

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Community Expert ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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Okay so after you use Pathfinder to cut the foreground text out of the monogram, you'll have to edit the monogram to get rid of all the interior paths:

Using the Direct Selection tool, marquee select anchor points and tap the Delete key:

Leave just the gaps in the original outer path:

Will this work?

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 20, 2019 Aug 20, 2019

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I suggest you use the same tool again.

Press ALT and drag the mouse.

You can use this tool to remove the areas you want to remove.

This tool is very capable to combine, cut and divide very complex shapes.

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Guide ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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What colors do you need finally? If 2 different like on your starting image, then 2 strokes are needed to cut letters from different film sheets, so it's all right.

If you plan to cut the whole lettering as a single shape, use Pathfinder in Add mode (first button in top line)

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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It will be cut out of one piece of plywood so I don't want to have repeat cuts. Perhaps these photos will help show you what I am trying to obtain. The F and Farrar are all from one piece of plywood and glued onto the circle. IMG_4178.JPGIMG_424DB05B41CE-1.jpeg

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Guide ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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if you plan to cut it from 1 piece and color later, you can thy the follow workaround:
1. Convert texts to outlines

2. Unite "Red" text by Pathfinder > Unite

cutt1.jpg

3. Copy the composition to Clipboard

4. Merge all elements by the same Unit button on Pathfinder panel

cutt2.jpg

it's yout main outline.

5. Paste the Clipboard content in front (Ctrl/Cmd + F)

6. Use Pathfinder > Outlines

cutt3.jpg

This operation will remove all fills and cut all lines in intersection points and create a group.

cutt4.jpg

7. Using Isolated Mode, delete all unneeded lines

cutt5.jpg

8. Now you have an outline and one-stroke internal lines.

cutt6.jpg

I colored the lines differently to show the parts, but you certainly don't need to change colors, cutting mashine doesn't see them

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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I think I am getting closer . Is there an easy way to delete all of the unwanted lines? Right now I have been selecting the top layer and then moving it up, down, left, or right to see what is underneath it. Then I delete the lines that are duplicates. It just gets confusing moving stuff all around.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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chrisf35359979  wrote

I have been selecting the top layer and then moving it up, down, left, or right to see what is underneath it.

Don't move it; just hide it. With it selected, press Ctrl/Cmd+3

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Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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Thank you! For me it was just "Command + 3" and then to make it reappear it was "option + command + 3"

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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Expanding on above responses, after applying Object>Path>Outline Stroke

1. Use the pathfinder>divide

2. Select overlapping objects>apply the shape-builder tool

If you need artwork for just a black-outline, repeat your steps above use pathfinder>outline.

Tutorial on Pathfinder: Search Results

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Aug 19, 2019 Aug 19, 2019

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Thanks! What do you do after you apply the shape builder tool? It looks like it just created a grid?

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 20, 2019 Aug 20, 2019

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Here I Outlined Type. Stroked with no Fill.

Select, Live Paint Stokes

Expand Live Paint.

No overlap or duplicate of strokes.

K

Live Paint Strokes.png

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Aug 20, 2019 Aug 20, 2019

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kphotopage  schrieb

Here I Outlined Type. Stroked with no Fill.

Select, Live Paint Stokes

Expand Live Paint.

No overlap or duplicate of strokes.

K

Live Paint Strokes.png

This.

I would do it like this:

1. Outline text, fill with white

2. Make live paint group

3. Select fill of none and triple click any white fill to change all the white fills to none

4. Expand

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I think that might have worked!

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Aug 20, 2019 Aug 20, 2019

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After you outline the text:

Asset 2.png

  1. Take the red type and ungroup it
  2. Take the red text then create a compound path: Object> Compound Path> Make (CTRL+8/CMD+8)
  3. Copy the red text: Edit> Copy (CTRL+C/CMD+C)
  4. Paste the red type in Front: Edit> Paste in Front (CTRL+F/CMD+F)
  5. While the copy of the red text is selected then also select the H
  6. Use the Pathfinder and Subtract the top object
    Screen Shot 2019-08-20 at 11.17.46 AM.png
  7. Now you have one copy of the red text and one copy of the H with the red text cut out.

Screen Shot 2019-08-20 at 11.17.36 AM.png

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 20, 2019 Aug 20, 2019

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The text can't be solid though. I have to have it as "no fill" with a stroke so I can cut it with my laser cutter.

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