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August 3, 2010
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Not able to chose out of gamut color?

  • August 3, 2010
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I am trying to simply select a bright blue color, but the icon for out of gamut appears in the color picker and when I click OK from the color picker the item on the screen appears as a dark blue.  Illustrator will not let me choose a bright blue?!?!?

I have a MacBook Pro.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thank you.

Katie

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      Correct answer lisa eMM

      In Illustrator, click File > Document Color Mode and then change the current selection (CMYK color or RGB color).

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      fredericg66331044
      fredericg66331044
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      October 28, 2019

      Thanks for the quick answer! I am saving the files as ".ai"

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      Vijay Ramachandran
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      October 12, 2022

      I am having the same issue too.

      Document colour is set to RGB but this thing keeps popping up. If I click on correct the colour, it just turns to black.

       

      Ton Frederiks
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      Ton FrederiksCommunity Expert
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      October 12, 2022

      You do not have the same issue, so please start a new post.

      I can replicate the behaviour that the color changes to black after clicking the warning. But I need to do it twice, first click changes the color, closing the Color Picker and open it again shows the warning again, click it and you get black.

      You may want to report it here: https://illustrator.uservoice.com/

        fredericg66331044
        fredericg66331044
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        October 28, 2019

        I have the same problem and the fix does not work for me.

        I am working in RGB and document color mode is set to that. I do lasercutting and need a perfect RGB for my cutter to recognize it. This has worked perfectly for a long time. However, for no apparent reason I am getting the "out of gamut" error and the lasercutter does not recognize the lines. Please help me, this is extremely annoying 😕😕

        Monika Gause
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        Monika GauseCommunity Expert
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        October 28, 2019

        What file format do you save?

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        lisa eMMCorrect answer
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        May 31, 2018

        In Illustrator, click File > Document Color Mode and then change the current selection (CMYK color or RGB color).

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          brianlennon
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          March 29, 2022

          Bravo! People talking about restarting Illustrator/machine - not unreasonable...but then going off on a command line escapade deleting hidden system files. Please! Just do this and you will be aok!

          Monika Gause
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          Monika GauseCommunity Expert
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          March 29, 2022
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          Bravo! People talking about restarting Illustrator/machine - not unreasonable...but then going off on a command line escapade deleting hidden system files. Please! Just do this and you will be aok!


          By @brianlennon

           

          Nobody did that in this thread. Absolutely nobody. So what is your problem?

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          Value4Realty
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          August 7, 2011

          The color in RGB is R 153 G 0 B 0 Hue 0 Sat 255 Light 77.  The HTML Code is #990000.

          The Color profile is Untagged CMYK.  It never changes to RGB no matter what I do.

          All your questions are answered in images at http://www.mls2u.com/Color.htm.

          They scroll down below the page.

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          emil emil
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          August 7, 2011

          Value4Realty wrote:

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          The Color profile is Untagged CMYK.  It never changes to RGB no matter what I do.

          edit: In what color mode is your document? What does it say after the name of the document on the document title bar? RGB or CMYK? Did you try File > Document Color Mode > RGB

          edit2: Have in mind that changes in color settings affect only new and untagged documents not already created documents with color profiles.

          If you are talking about the color profile of the image, then probably it is because it's a linked image (not embedded). Select the image and look at the properties bar at the top of your screen under the main application menu. Do you see Embed and Edit Original buttons not dimmed? If so, click Embed and it will convert it to RGB and the document profile. Illustrator can't modify linked images, you have to edit those in the original program, remove the profile there, and save again.

          When you say the Adobe logo in Illustrator doesn't exactly match the logo in Adobe.com I'm assuming that you mean certain web browser using the same monitor as Illustrator. If so, the color difference can only come if the web browser is not using the same monitor and image color profiles as Illustrator for displaying on screen.

          Anyway, when the color profile of the image is the same as the color profile of your monitor, (In Illustrator, untagged documents and embedded images are displayed with the current working space), then  color managed programs like Illustrator display uncorrected color the way your monitor is capable of displaying colors. For example the color R 153 G 0 B 0 encoded in the file will be displayed on screen by your video card using the same color values.

          If the color profile of the monitor is different from the color profile of the image, color managed programs will use different RGB numbers in the video card for display on screen to compensate for the difference. In other words, your monitor using its own color space will be used to simulate a different color space. If you monitor is calibrated and profiled properly this allows for correct display of intended colors. For example if you and other users have properly calibrated and profiled monitors, by choosing a common standard color space like sRGB, all of you will see the same colors on your different systems. In case some monitors are with narrower color space than sRGB, the closest match will be used.

          When you display images without color management (uncorrected) color, the colors are the way your monitor is displaying them and may not be at all what others will see on their monitors.

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          Value4Realty
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          August 7, 2011

          You are right emil but I changed it to RGB and pasted the same Adobe logo in and it is still organge not red.  It is not a link.  It's a print screen pasted in. Steve solved it.  It is the settings in Bridge.  Once I set them to monitor, everything worked and red was red.

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          Value4Realty
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          August 7, 2011

          Steve, I wish it was as simple as that but it's not. First I have no intention of ever printing this content.  It's for the screen only.  Secondly, I tried exactly what you said before I wrote the post and it does not work.  I wish it did because it's driving me nuts.

          See this link as an example of what you suggested I do.  http://www.mls2u.com/Gamut.htm.

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          emil emil
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          August 7, 2011

          Value4Realty wrote:

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          See this link as an example of what you suggested I do.  http://www.mls2u.com/Gamut.htm.

          Looks like a color management problem. What is the color profile of the document and what is the color profile of your monitor?

          You can check the color profile of the document using the drop down menu at the bottom left of the document window - choose Show > Document Color Profile.

          To check what monitor profile is used, you can either check it in your system or using Illustrator's color settings.

          On a PC system it is Control Panel > Color Management > Devices Tab - the color profile of the monitor currently used by the color managed programs will be listed there with its name ending with (default).

          Using Illustrator, go to Edit > Color Settings > Working Spaces section, and from the RGB menu look for a profile which name starts with the word Monitor.

          What happens to color of the Adobe logo in your test image if you choose Monitor Color from the Settings menu in the Color settings and then From the Edit menu > Assign Profile, choose Don't Color Manage This Document?

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          Value4Realty
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          August 7, 2011

          I am doing stuff for the web that will never ever be printed.  I want to be able to use any and all colors like I could with older versions of illustrator.  How do I turn this big brother gamut feature off permanently?

          Steve Fairbairn
          Steve Fairbairn
          Inspiring
          August 7, 2011

          If you are working for the web you should be in RGB mode.

          If you're working for print use CMYK.

          It's as simple as that.

          You can't turn the "gamut feature" off and it's not a big brother thing.

          The word gamut means simply the range of colours that can be achieved using the given primaries Red, Green, Blue for coloured light and Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Key (black) for printing inks or paint.

          Oviously there are a lot of colours that cannot be achieved by mixing printing inks together, making CMYK gamut considerably narrower than the RGB gamut. "Any and all colours" is a very relative and perceptual notion but you will be better off using RGB.

            Scott Falkner
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            Scott FalknerCommunity Expert
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            August 3, 2010

            What is your Document Color Mode (File menu)? If it’s CMYK, then all colours you choose must be CMYK. You can select from the RGB panel, but the resulting colour will be CMYK, so out of gamut colours simply cannot be used. If your file is meant for print you should stay in CMYK mode to avoid having all your process blacks converted to RGB rich blacks.

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            Anonymous
            August 3, 2010

            Yes, my color mode is set to CMYK.  It is really strange.  I am new to a Mac and I think it might be something to do with the actual computer as opposed to Illustrator.  But then again I am not sure what is going on.  When I look at pictures on iStock or Google or any other web site, I see the bright blue I am looking for.  I have even tried copying and pasting the image from the internet into Illustrator and it even makes the original bright blue in the image dark blue?!?!? 

            Jacob Bugge
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            Jacob BuggeCommunity Expert
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            August 3, 2010

            Katie,

            You may try this, and hopefully wonder less:

            1) Create a new document, ticking Color Mode RGB, create a rectangle and fill it with R/G/B 0/0/255,

            2) File>Document Color Mode>CMYK and see the difference.

            Further, you may try it for different Edit>Color Settings.

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