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Pantone and Fonts

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September 14, 2022
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I can't believe that Pantone colors won't be available in 2023 - and that all Type 2 fonts will no longer work. Not good!

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Correct answer Kevin Stohlmeyer

One of the easiest work arounds is to just install the pantone colors manually in your swatch panels from your current .acb files. Adobe has not stopped support for that format. They just wont include them in future releases.

jackthegiantkiller

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Or perhaps Adobe could take some of their record profits and stop haggling over these petty licensing fees so that they don't continue to be user hostile?

To quote your executive vice president and CFO, Dan Durn: “Adobe is better positioned today than we’ve ever been to serve our customers globally.” Then how about you pay these freaking licensing fees and stop passing the buck down to your users who are already bleeding to death.

Monika Gause

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@jackthegiantkiller schrieb:

Or perhaps Adobe could take some of their record profits and stop haggling over these petty licensing fees so that they don't continue to be user hostile?

This is maybe not about the money. Pantone wants direct contact to customers and above all they want data. You know that when using their app, you give them a lot of information about which color is used in which place of the world and also which colors are suggested, but don't get used, etc. Right?

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Bobby Henderson

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I'm still trying to figure out if Pantone is going to come after all the other software vendors including Pantone color libraries in their graphics applications. I know CorelDRAW and Affinity Designer have their own copies of the various color books. The large format printing RIP applications we use at my workplace (Onyx Thrive and RasterLink Pro) have built-in Pantone libraries as well as ways how to simulate those colors via the type of printers connected to the RIP applications. I have no idea at all how the Pantone Connect app would work with any of those applications I mentioned. It really seems like Pantone singled out Adobe applications with their ploy.

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Bobby Henderson

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The trick to re-using the Pantone color books from a prior version of Illustrator in the current version seems to work alright. However, opening a document with Pantone fills still brings up a warning notice at the bottom of the workspace. I've also noticed some hit-and-miss behaviors with importing artwork containing Pantone spot color fills from other applications. For instance, I tried importing an Illustrator file exported from CorelDRAW containing objects that used Pantone Color Bridge Coated fills. When opening the file in Illustrator all of the fills were converted to CMYK values. Fills using Solid Coated values would open properly (but, again, with that warning notice at the bottom of the screen).

I'm still very annoyed by the news of Adobe ending support for Postscript Type 1 fonts. Postscript was Adobe's "baby" after all. I still haven't seen any concrete word on when Microsoft and Apple will prevent users from installing Type 1 fonts in the operating system. Technically, Type 1 fonts aren't "supported" by Microsoft and the Windows OS, but users can still install them (for now).

I think the most sensible solution is using font conversion software. I'm not interested in spending many thousands of dollars to replace the Type 1 fonts I've built up in my collection since the early 1990's. Some of those fonts were bundled into early versions of Adobe Illustrator and PageMaker. I'd rather convert my old T1 version of Akzidenz Grotesk BE into some OTFs rather than blow $1100 to get essentially the same thing.

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elizabethm13738127

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Thanks for the tips! Have you found a good program for converting Postscript Type 1 fonts to OTFs?

Kevin Stohlmeyer

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Transtype is a recommended solution. https://creativepro.com/how-to-convert-postscript-fonts-to-opentype-with-transtype/

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elizabethm13738127

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Gah! I don't like it either. 2023 is going to be expensive 😞
Looking for workarounds for both postscript fonts and Pantone swatches 😉

Kevin Stohlmeyer

Community Expert

@elizabethm13738127 there really isn't going to be a workaround for Type1 fonts. As stated before, it's not an Adobe initiative, both major Operating Systems are outmoding them - Apple and Microsoft. The "workaround" would be to never update your software (both Adobe and OS) or replacing them with Postscript.

For the Pantone swatches, Adobe has already posted workarounds to help users since Pantone is not doing much on their end.
https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/kb/pantone-plus.html

Bill Silbert

Community Expert

I do feel your pain about the PANTONE colors. It makes me feel really glad that I have recently retired. Having to deal with the inevitable mess of explaining to clients why we would have to pay extra to use the PANTONE library is something that I am relieved not to have to face.

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ENG_MAAuthor

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Exactly - and who has time for workarounds and how many clients will understand the details. So many clients think "Adobe" is a software, not a suite of product.

Kevin Stohlmeyer

Correct answer

Community Expert

One of the easiest work arounds is to just install the pantone colors manually in your swatch panels from your current .acb files. Adobe has not stopped support for that format. They just wont include them in future releases.

Kevin Stohlmeyer

Community Expert

Correction - Type 1 fonts will no longer be supported on many platforms not just Adobe.

Also the Pantone situation has been well documented both on this forum and in other media.

Pantone decided to make their digital color book a subscription service and could not come to an agreement with Adobe.

There are work arounds for Pantone and also Open Type replacements for T1 fonts.

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ENG_MAAuthor

Participant

Sorry, I misspoke about the Type1 / 2 fonts. I know it has been well documented but I suspect it may be cumbersome.

Kevin Stohlmeyer

Community Expert

In some cases Adobe Fonts may be the answer.

You can search for similar fonts or replace directly with an OTF of the same family either on the site or directly in the software.

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