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November 17, 2022
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Pantone Solid Swatches Missing from 2023 update

  • November 17, 2022
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Has anyone had any issues with the Pantone solid swatches missing in 2023? I just updated it and those are the only color books that are missing (and the ones I use the most). Can someone help me get them back? 

Correct answer Kevin Stohlmeyer

With all the misguided flack thrown at Adobe, to their credit they started to address some of this directly with workarounds and solutions via software updates:

https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/kb/pantone-plus.html

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/pantone-color-books-photoshop.html

 

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Participant
May 18, 2023

I've run into this problem as well and found this thread in my search to solve it. This is a real problem for designers. Pantone are shooting themselves in the foot to not support designers in accessing their colour books easily in Adobe design software. KEEP IT THE SAME AS BEFORE. 

Monika Gause
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May 19, 2023

@krasivaya.com  a écrit :

 KEEP IT THE SAME AS BEFORE. 


 

Everyone wants this, but it is not within Adobe's powers to make that happen. Pantone sets the conditions for licensing. Not everything can be had for money. 

 

Pantone wants everyone to install their extension. Their extension allows them to collect data. 

Community Expert
May 19, 2023
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Pantone wants everyone to install their extension. Their extension allows them to collect data. 

 

And they want to collect an extra $15 per month (or $180 per year) from Adobe software users, just for digital swatches that mean very little without the physical Formula Guide swatch books.

 

The physical swatch books cost $170-$220 on their own and need to be replaced from time to time. They recommend replacing them on an annual basis. I imagine the prices are even higher in Europe. I think Pantone could see the sales levels of their physical color swatch products drop. If the spot color libraries aren't present within the software they won't serve as a piece of advertising for the physical products. Out of sight, out of mind. The users who do subscribe to Pantone's services will likely run into workflow problems when sending artwork containing newer spot colors to other users or service bureaus choosing not to play along with Pantone's game.

Participant
May 1, 2023

Thank you for ALL the responses here.... for the helpful ones and for the funny ones. I have been agonizing over how to fix this and you guys just made my day brighter and easier. Boo, Pantone. Hooray Nice People. 

Community Expert
May 1, 2023

I saw an email ad earlier today from Corel, promoting its latest version of CorelDRAW. The sales angle of this ad was the latest Pantone colors are included at no extra charge. They're promoting this as a great new feature even though these swatch books have been included for no extra charge in various graphics applications for decades. I still believe the stunt Pantone is pulling will backfire on them -translating into fewer sales of their physical products such as color swatch books.

Participant
April 18, 2023

Hello,

Actually i need some help with pantone book actually i have physical copy of pantone which shades are not available in this illustrator version can you please help how to solve this.

 

Thanks

Monika Gause
Community Expert
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April 18, 2023
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Hello,

Actually i need some help with pantone book actually i have physical copy of pantone which shades are not available in this illustrator version can you please help how to solve this.

 

Thanks


By @pratiksha29458906w9x6

 

Install the still available older version.

Grab the Pantone books from it

Save them in a secure place AND install them in your current version.

mrjrick
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January 13, 2023

Way over my paygrade! Illustrator updated itself on my Surface so I don't think I can go back to previous version to grab the the Pantone Books. Pantone and Adobe have been sticking it to production folks. Try mixiong ink colors using the newest Formula Guides. Plus the fact that years ago they changed the order of colors so it was easier for designers to select colors. What a mess. It would be awsome if someone could pull the two color books and make them available to us "older" folks.

Ton Frederiks
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 13, 2023

Just follow the instructions in the post above yours or search the web for .acb color libraries.

Participant
December 23, 2022

Could anyone share the pantone solid coated swatches? I couldn't save it from the presets files, mine disappeard after I updated the software along with the old files getting removed...

Monika Gause
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December 23, 2022
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Could anyone share the pantone solid coated swatches? I couldn't save it from the presets files, mine disappeard after I updated the software along with the old files getting removed...


By @default27683149ele5ev

 

This is not allowed and so it probably won't happen on this forum. But if you search for them , you might find them online in blogs and other places.

Participant
December 13, 2022

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/1/23434305/adobe-pantone-subscription-announcement-photoshop-illustrator

 

Here's an article from the Verge about the new subscription for Pantone Colors. Not sure if it only applies to US or if it is internatnional. Some companies I work with are in Canada, anyone know about how this affects Canadian users?

Monika Gause
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 13, 2022

The Pantone libraries have been pulled out all over the world.

Community Expert
November 23, 2022

This situation with Pantone is just unspeakably stupid. I mean really really stupid. We've seen other things removed from Creative Cloud in the past. Dolby encoding was pulled from Audition and Premiere Pro. Font Bureau and I think a couple other firms pulled fonts from the Adobe Fonts service. Support for Postscript Type 1 fonts is ending. But this thing with Pantone angers me more than any of these other downgrades.

It's bad enough those of us who need to use Pantone spot colors as references for color matching have to spend a ridiculous amount of money on the physical swatch books. Those things are expensive! A Pantone Formula Guide containing 2 swatch books (coated and uncoated spot colors) costs close to $200. And you're supposed to replace them on an annual basis since the printed colors on all those paper strips can fade over time and get damaged with use (and Pantone adds new colors from time to time). I guess that's not enough money for X-Rite or whoever owns Pantone now. They want an extra $15 per month for digital copies of these colors on top of the high cost for the physical color books. $15 per month is $180 per year. That puts the cost of fooling around using Pantone as a reference at upwards of $400 per year.

I've always looked at the digital versions of Pantone swatch books as a loss leader -as a way to sell the physical books and other real world materials. Or the digital swatches could be called a form of advertising for the physical books. If new colors get added to the digital swatches it might do more to convince users to buy new physical swatch books that match. If Pantone wants to erect a pay-wall for their digital swatch books they may just see the reverse happen. We could see a lot of people saying "NO" to paying nearly $400 per year and just shift to using different color standards to define branding. In many company branding guide books I've already been seeing them list RGB, CMYK or Hex values for their colors along with Pantone. I could see companies shift to using L*a*b values. I just don't expect to see Pantone coming away making more money and gaining more users. If anything they're going to lose a lot of customers instead.

Pantone claims Adobe hasn't updated the digital representations of Pantone's swatch books since 2010, which I think is a bogus charge. For instance I remember the Subway restaurant chain updated its brand in 2016, using new "Pantone Plus" spot colors. It took a few months but those spot colors showed up in subsequent releases of Illustrator (and other graphics applications). I don't know how many Pantone spot colors are missing from the Illustrator 2022 swatches compared to a current Pantone Formula Guide book, but it can't be a lot.

Digital versions of Pantone's color books are still present in rival graphics applications, such as CorelDRAW. Large format printing RIP applications interpolate those spot color books as well. Is Pantone going to install a pay-wall on all of those applications?

I think this opens the door for Pantone's rivals to make some gains in the market. Pantone isn't the only company selling and promoting spot/process color libraries. Adobe could even get into the business.

Kevin Stohlmeyer
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November 23, 2022

With all the misguided flack thrown at Adobe, to their credit they started to address some of this directly with workarounds and solutions via software updates:

https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/kb/pantone-plus.html

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/pantone-color-books-photoshop.html

 

Kevin Stohlmeyer
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November 17, 2022
chrisg11235813
Participating Frequently
November 17, 2022

Pantone stopped allowing Adobe to supply the libraries.

if you still have the previous illustrator installed you can pull it from there. Or if you have the books in inDesign, you can also pull it from there.

Or install a revious version of illustrator.

 

swatches are located here (on a Mac):

/Applications/Adobe Illustrator 2023/Presets/en_US/Swatches/

 

Don't forget to save those libraries somewhere, so you can easily pull them the next time your software updates.

Participant
November 21, 2022

Thx... great that worked! 

Monika Gause
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 17, 2022

Install the older version and grab the Pantone solid books from it.

Community Expert
November 23, 2022

I saved copies of the color books from Illustrator and Photoshop a few months ago when the news first broke. But I'm wondering if there will be any "gotchas" with trying to copy those color books into newer versions of the applications.

chrisg11235813
Participating Frequently
November 23, 2022

there should not be any issues -- I have been using the same older colour books for years and years.  One unfortunate truth is you won't have swatches for "New" colours. But even in the past you would struggle with that issue, because the Colour Books were out of date long before this "Pantone vs. the World" thing happened.