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Shocker! Why does Adobe insist on not making the best gradients?

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August 4, 2024
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Anyone who has ever used Blender knows that if you choose "B-Spline" for your gradient， you get an extremely smooth gradient， no matter what color you choose - it's the softest gradient I've ever seen， bar none!

But I've never seen Adobe add this feature to Photoshop or Illustrator.

First of all， you can be sure that "B-Spline" in Blender is applied in RGB mode， the principle is not complicated， and it can be applied in RGB mode in PS and AI.

At the same time， I also believe that if you study it carefully， the day of using "B-Spline" in CMYK mode is not far away.

All of you who read this post， please tell me if you want to:

Choose any number of colors and automatically create a "perfect gradient" with extremely smooth transitions!

I've tested it， all gradients in AI and PS can't compete with "B-Spline"， if you don't believe me， download Blender and see for yourself， it's a fact!

I think this "basic feature" should have been created 10 years ago， but poor us， we have waited for it， we have not seen any news， and we just sigh all day long "just get on with it".

In the field of gradient， PS and AI and other software features are like old bicycles， users have been waiting for more than ten years， Adobe has never considered upgrading to a brand new car.

Why is this so， is it possible that this feature has not been thought about by programmers， not users need， or with Adobe's strength can not be done?

That's an absolute impossibility!

So， is the answer arrogance?

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Torsten.H

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Hello,

I dug through several forums and finally ended up here. In the Illustrator example I have matched several colour gradients with mask and transparency. Since it seems to be a fundamental problem in the representation of gradients, the problem with the superimposition of several gradients increases

In the end, this cannot be done satisfactorily in Illustrator. I am also aware of the problems of using RGB and CMYK as well as 8 bit and 16 bit files in PS. But none of this has anything to do with the fact that you can't create stripe-free colour gradients in Illustrator.

If you need clean colour gradients you have to do them in Photoshop.

I cannot say how this can be solved technically and the existing comments from the programmer make it clear that it is at least a fundamental problem.

It would be very helpful if this problem could finally be solved.

Monika Gause

Community Expert

@Torsten.H schrieb:

Hello,

I dug through several forums and finally ended up here. In the Illustrator example I have matched several colour gradients with mask and transparency. Since it seems to be a fundamental problem in the representation of gradients, the problem with the superimposition of several gradients increases

In the end, this cannot be done satisfactorily in Illustrator. I am also aware of the problems of using RGB and CMYK as well as 8 bit and 16 bit files in PS. But none of this has anything to do with the fact that you can't create stripe-free colour gradients in Illustrator.

If you need clean colour gradients you have to do them in Photoshop.

I cannot say how this can be solved technically and the existing comments from the programmer make it clear that it is at least a fundamental problem.

It would be very helpful if this problem could finally be solved.

I guess it would help if you provided the AI file of that.

Torsten.H

Inspiring

Hello Monika,

Thank you for your quick response.

Please find attached a reduced version of the AI file.(example_lines.ai >> Link: Adobe )

I (think) know my way around illustrator quite well and have always ignored this problem and solved it somehow. With normal gradients it usually doesn't matter. But with the overlays it does cause considerable problems.

I would be happy if I have done something wrong, then there would be a solution. And if not you, then who could find a solution and I'll order your book straight away 🙂 There are a few other things that annoy me.

Thanks a lot
Greetings Torsten

Egor Chistyakov

Inspiring

@U-V2, it’s a known request. Gradient interpolation in Illustrator is linear and currently there is no way to change it with a script or a plugin. You can only try to imitate it, like it’s been suggested here. Only Ai team can make actual changes like this.

So — please upvote this feature request about easing and interpolation in gradients in Illustrator.

Put some actual examples and explain your intentions clearly. Unless the team finds your arguments solid, they most likely won’t care.

And I have to notice your spacebar key seems broken. Please fix it and try to avoid excessive text decoration. It’s makes reading your messages difficult.

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U-V2Author

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Thanks for the advice!

I just looked and my keyboard is really broken ......

Jacob Bugge

Community Expert

U-V2,

Even after several attempts I just get a broken link in your attachment.

Can you post it using the Insert Photos button at the top of the Reply box (looks like moon over mountains)?

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U-V2Author

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Can you see a clear picture now, please?

Jacob Bugge

Community Expert

U-V2,

As I (mis)understand it, the first screenshot is from Blender, and there is no simple Ai gradient screenshot included, but I know how a default value one looks.

I agree that there is a fundamental difference in the (kind of) gradient shown in the two applications, but I am less impressed by the Blender version than are you, with the predominance of RGB being replaced by predominance of the intermediate colours, and loss of the G and B as well as a less vibrant appearance.

There are countless (free and paid) scripts made over decades that offer added features and functions to the inherent ones in Ai, such as the script by Sergey that Ton has kindly shared a link to.

But is is actually possible to get a soft and even transition in Ai by simple changes to the default values used in the inherent gradient (only the actual transition shown below).

Click to get closer

Ton Frederiks

Community Expert

Photoshop has since a couple of years various ways to interpolate gradients.

Illustrator can do the same with a script from Sergey Osokin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3FG0g5yDm8

And as Monika suggested, for feature requests, use UserVoice.

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U-V2Author

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Hi， I saw this reply of yours a long time ago， but I never knew how to reply to you.

Until now， I probably know exactly what to say.

You can refer to my conversation with "Jacob Bugge" in this thread.

Here is what I want to say:

1. I can only pay for Sergey Osokin's paid scripts via Google pay， but the "buymeacoffee-APP" is so rudimentary that I can't buy them.

2， I would like a friend who has already purchased the script to use it to generate a gradient image based on the colors provided in my image and insert the image into the reply for me to see， and if I don't think it would look out of place in print， then I will find a way to contact Sergey Osokin to purchase the script.

3， Actually， my real need is that no matter what color I choose to generate the gradient， the result is extremely soft， and I can't figure out the problem from the transition even if I print it， and to print it means it has to be CMYK， which involves a lot of problems.

P.S. By the way， I know that on the image I provided， the colors are all RGB， if possible， I hope you can pick a few CMYK colors that are very different to generate the gradient yourself， I mean generate it with Sergey Osokin's paid script so that I can know if this paid script will produce colors outside the CMYK range in CMYK mode.

Thank you very much for your replies， you guys give me hope， I've been suffering with gradients for too， too long!

Monika Gause

Community Expert

Thank you for your reply!

My logic now is:

1， There have been attempts in this thread to generate gradients using scripts， as well as the interpolation algorithm that comes with PS， and none of them have yielded the softer results that Blender has.

2， Blender's "B Spline Gradient" has the ability to make the transition between two colors as natural as possible， even at the expense of the color itself， so both in RGB and CMYK modes， "B Spline Gradient" has an incredible in both RGB and CMYK modes.

Of course， I know this is not the truth or the right answer， it is just my guess.

But I will choose to believe that "B Spline Gradient" can be used in CMYK as well and better than any other method because of its amazing effect in RGB mode.

Blender operates in RGB color space. So can you please deliver proof that its gradients works better in CMYK?

Or do you only "believe".

Monika Gause

Community Expert

And sure you have some example images? Or didn't you download Blender because of this?

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U-V2Author

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First of all, thank you for your answer, but please check out the pictures!
There is no mistake in what I said, is there?

Monika Gause

Community Expert

I don't get your point. A couple of rainbow gradients?

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