Space before paragraph

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January 25, 2017
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Hello,

There is a behaviour I don't understand in "Space before paragraph". Perhaps someone can explain to me what is going on.

1- Create a text box. On the first line, type a word in font size 12pt, Times New Roman. Press enter (carriage return). Go to the Paragraph menu and make sure "Space before paragraph" and "Space after paragraph" are set to 0.

2- On the second line, type a word in font size 50pt, Times New Roman. Go to the Paragraph menu and in "Space before paragraph", type -10pt. The line does not move up at all. Press enter.

3- On the third line, type a word in font size 12pt, Times New Roman. Make sure "Space before paragraph" is set to 0 for this line. Press enter.

4- On the fourth line, type a word in font size 50pt, Times New Roman. Go to the Paragraph menu and in "Space before paragraph", type -10pt. The line moves up.

Why does the line in #2 not move up as it does in #4? I expect the second line to move up by 10pt.

Thanks.

This is for CS4.

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SJRiegel

Legend

I cannot test this is CS4, but in CC2017, the text moves up exactly as it should.

maybe someone with CS4 could runs the same test to see if they can duplicate your problem.

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sPretzelAutor

Inspiring

Actually, I must rephrase the original post (I couldn't edit it). SJRiegel, please try again the following, if you don't mind:

Hello,

There is a behaviour I don't understand in "Space before paragraph". Perhaps someone can explain to me what is going on.

1- Create a text box. On the first line, type a word in font size 12pt, Times New Roman. Press enter (carriage return). Go to the Paragraph menu and make sure "Space before paragraph" and "Space after paragraph" are set to 0.

2- On the second line, type a word in font size 50pt, Times New Roman. Go to the Paragraph menu and in "Space before paragraph", type -40pt. The line moves up some but not by all 40pt. Press enter.

3- On the third line, type a word in font size 12pt, Times New Roman. Make sure "Space before paragraph" is set to 0 for this line. Press enter.

4- On the fourth line, type a word in font size 50pt, Times New Roman. Go to the Paragraph menu and in "Space before paragraph", type -40pt. The line moves up 40 pt.

Why does the line in #2 not move up as much as the line in #4? I expect the second line to move up by 40pt too.

Thanks.

This is for CS4.

S

sPretzelAutor

Inspiring

I thing this has to do with the first line rule in the area type settings.

If you go to Type > Area type settings and then set the first line rule to "fixed" at a value of 40 pt, you will get your result. Make that value even higher and the complete text nlock will move down.

Thanks everyone. Monika, what you suggest is almost what I want, except that instead of the first line dropping down, I need the second line to move up.

As to why, it is very simple and bad type indeed but it's the visual I'm after here (of course, there are plenty ways to work around this but I am bothered I don't understand what is happening). I simply have two lines where the first line has a small point size and the second line has a larger point size. I am trying to adjust the spacing between the two lines, as visually, the default leading of the second line is not appropriate (one workaround would be to adjust the value of that leading, instead of the "space before paragraph").

The reason I added a third and fourth line in the example is to show that "space before paragraph" works for lines 3 and 4 as expected. So the leading issue doesn't appear to be the cause, otherwise, the same problem would exist for lines 3 and 4, wouldn't it?

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