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Stopping Illustrator From Turning Every Stroke Into A Cut

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Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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I have a vector image of a star shaped logo with different details and strokes within the store. I only wish to use the outline of the star as a cutting line and cutting master. When I look at the image and the outline mode of illustrator, it's showing all of the details with in the store as outlines or cutting lines

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Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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Please show a screenshot.

You will probably have to name the stroke that you want to use for cutting in a special way so that your Cutting application recognizes it. The documentation should tell you how.

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Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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Not sure what you mean by "store".

 

Sounds like you have a logo using a star as a mask. Try option clicking with the direct select (white arrow, or 2nd tool) on the edge of the star to get the star only. You can then copy that and paste on a new layer, assuming it is one shape. 

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Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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In straight vinyl cutting operations it is usually best to use vector shapes that have a solid fill and no live line strokes. Any live line strokes on shapes may end up being expanded when imported into vinyl cutting software. You'll have the original star shape as well as parallel vector lines running inside and outside the star shape. Those parallel lines will overlap each other at any corners. It's not vinyl cutter friendly. If any kinds of outline effects are intended to be cut out of vinyl those effects need to be expanded and cleaned up within Adobe Illustrator before the art is exported to use in a vinyl cutter.

The one exception to this involving line strokes is with print and cut operations. Large format RIP applications typically require cut lines to be defined using a line stroke set in a custom spot color (most often named "CutContour").

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Mar 26, 2024 Mar 26, 2024

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Thanks for all the replies

 

.  So let me expand.  I have a star shaped  logo that I am printing on adhesive backed material along with registration marks.  Then I use my cutter to die cut (or perfect cut depending what you want to call it) 

while I have some experience with photoshop, I have zero with illustrator.  But I have found several tutorials on that process.  They all say when I'm illustrator just use outline mode to see where the cut lines will be.  All of those tutorials show only the outermost line or contour lnes.  Mine shows the outline plus all the interior lines.  I have tried adding a contour cut like but it's still showing all of the interior lines (strokes).  

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@Bobby Henderson wrote:

In straight vinyl cutting operations it is usually best to use vector shapes that have a solid fill and no live line strokes. Any live line strokes on shapes may end up being expanded when imported into vinyl cutting software. You'll have the original star shape as well as parallel vector lines running inside and outside the star shape. Those parallel lines will overlap each other at any corners. It's not vinyl cutter friendly. If any kinds of outline effects are intended to be cut out of vinyl those effects need to be expanded and cleaned up within Adobe Illustrator before the art is exported to use in a vinyl cutter.

The one exception to this involving line strokes is with print and cut operations. Large format RIP applications typically require cut lines to be defined using a line stroke set in a custom spot color (most often named "CutContour").


 

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Mar 26, 2024 Mar 26, 2024

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you have to read the documentation of your cutting software. It will tell you how to mark the cut line. Could be a name for the path, a certain color or something else.

Then you have to set that up in the file.

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Mar 26, 2024 Mar 26, 2024

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yes but it's still showing every stroke within the vector as a cut line.  I am told I should be able to add a contour cut line in a layer in illustrator and the cutter will use that. They tell me I can see if I did it right in illustrator by just looking in VIEW - OUTLINE.  But when I do all the interior strokes show up as well. 

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Mar 26, 2024 Mar 26, 2024

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The outline/wireframe view you showed of the artwork looks correct. There are vector lines (or "paths") to define the positive solid areas of the star and then there are other lines to define the negative areas where holes are being punched thru the art. If you send the whole thing to the vinyl cutter the knife blade will cut anywhere it sees a vector line present. If you only want to cut the outside shape you'll have to break apart or ungroup the star graphic in order to only select the outer shape. But I get the feeling that might not be what you want. Is this a print and cut job where the star graphic is being printed and the outer shape is being contour cut? Or is all the details of the star simply being cut out of vinyl?

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Mar 27, 2024 Mar 27, 2024

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Thank you.  The interesting thing is on the same sheet I have a bunch of flags made from a png file that will also be stickers.  The strokes around each color filled section are showing up as outlines and this cut lines as well. 

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Mar 27, 2024 Mar 27, 2024

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Bobby this is a star print where only the outside edge will be cut.  I have tried taking my vector, rasterizing it and removing the background but I get the same issue. But that still shows all the internal lines.  I tried to export the star as a png but then I get a box around it in when I look at it in "outline" view.  I have another post on this issue.  

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Mar 27, 2024 Mar 27, 2024

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@Mark36311068tq1u  schrieb:

They tell me I can see if I did it right in illustrator by just looking in VIEW - OUTLINE.  . 


 

Please read the manual for your plotter/cutter.

 

In Outline view you will see all the paths. So whoever told you that, was not very well informed.

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Mar 27, 2024 Mar 27, 2024

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The edge box is showing up as a cut line in cutting master and it just wants to cut squares instead of stars.  Since I have an illustrator license I am trying to do all the work in illustrator rather than buying a copy of graphtecs software .   

 

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Mar 27, 2024 Mar 27, 2024

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But still you will need to read the documentation in order to know how to prepare the cutline.

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Mar 27, 2024 Mar 27, 2024

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Well graphed tells me that cutting master 4 is showing that invisible box, edge , path or whatever it is as a cut line.

 

I figured out a workaround.

 

export my star as a tiff. Open it and remove the background.   Duplicate the layer .  Unite under path finder.

 

now I can print with the image file and cut with the path file and that box (that says edge) seems to have disappeared and all the interior strike lines don't show up as cut lines. 

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You shouldn't have to rasterize vector objects in order to do a print and cut operation. I don't use Cutting Master (even though we have two Graphtec plotters in our shop), but I'm betting its approach to print and cut operations has to be pretty similar to what we do using Onyx. The cut line has to be specifically defined, usually with custom spot color bearing a specific name. In the case of apps like Onyx or Roland VersaWorks the spot color has to be called "CutContour" and applied as a line stroke to the cut path. The Cutting Master documentation should have some description of this.

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