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Transform Effect

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Jun 11, 2022 Jun 11, 2022

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Im following a tutorial about using transfrom effect. I create a polygon shape adjust scale, roate and copies and instead of creating copies in front where I can see them they are all behind. Im using a gradient so its not transparent. When I do go transparent I can see copies. How do I apply this effect so copies are in front? Thanks for anyone who can help.

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Community Expert , Jun 12, 2022 Jun 12, 2022

If I understand correctly on the left is what you get and on the right is what you want.

Screenshot 2022-06-12 at 15.06.27.png

You could vote for this feature request to have an option in the Transform Effect to change the stacking order:

https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657-illustrator-desktop-feature-requests/suggestions/39425077--reverse-order-option-for-transform-effect

 

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Participant , Jun 12, 2022 Jun 12, 2022

Thanks I did vote. I also found a plugin through CValley Filterit that creates copys and has option to check stacking order back or front. Worked perfectly. Hopefully Illustrator will one day offer the option to stack copies in front or back. 

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Community Expert , Jun 12, 2022 Jun 12, 2022

Certainly not ideal, but in the meantime one kludge may be to make a copy of the live object, expand its appearance, then in the Layers palette highlight all items within the group that has been generated and choose the Reverse Order command in the Layers palette menu.

 

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Jun 11, 2022 Jun 11, 2022

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Can you please show your result and the tutorial?

 

I guess you want to use the tutorial to build something different?

 

Basically to overcome this, you have to build the artwork the other way round, since you cannot instruct the transform effect to change stacking order. Would be a good feature request.

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Jun 11, 2022 Jun 11, 2022

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Here is the tutorial- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQTQMn5GkGk&t=2292s

Fast Forward to block 6 about 4 min in. 

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Jun 11, 2022 Jun 11, 2022

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sorry 40 min in

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Jun 11, 2022 Jun 11, 2022

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And what is it that you want to create? The same thing?

Note that the speakter is applying the effect only to the stroke, not to the object as a whole. Maybe that is your issue.

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Jun 11, 2022 Jun 11, 2022

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Look at attachment, its applied to stroke and gradient fill. 

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And what is this supposed to look like? Looks pretty much like in the tutorial.

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Jun 11, 2022 Jun 11, 2022

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No that is the tutorial picture. I didn't  post mine. Mine is a shape with copies behind it you can't see. I can't get it to look like that cause his copies copy to the front and mine are in the back. 

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Jun 11, 2022 Jun 11, 2022

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Please show.

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Jun 12, 2022 Jun 12, 2022

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His objects are also covering each other, but his object starts small and is scaled up.

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So there is no way to create multiple copies in front instead of behind? I don't even understand in what situation would there be a reason to create copies behind something so you can't see them. When I copy and paste it's always in front. It's such an odd choice for the transform effect to create all the copies in the back of main shape. 

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If I understand correctly on the left is what you get and on the right is what you want.

Screenshot 2022-06-12 at 15.06.27.png

You could vote for this feature request to have an option in the Transform Effect to change the stacking order:

https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/333657-illustrator-desktop-feature-requests/suggestions/394...

 

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Thanks I did vote. I also found a plugin through CValley Filterit that creates copys and has option to check stacking order back or front. Worked perfectly. Hopefully Illustrator will one day offer the option to stack copies in front or back. 

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That is a nice plug-in. I like the option to change the stacking order and it also has the very useful option to specify the center of transformation.

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Certainly not ideal, but in the meantime one kludge may be to make a copy of the live object, expand its appearance, then in the Layers palette highlight all items within the group that has been generated and choose the Reverse Order command in the Layers palette menu.

 

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Thank you so much. I was looking for something that would reverse order and couldn't find it! That's a helpful tip. 

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