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January 29, 2023
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Turn expanded strokes back into simple editable strokes?

  • January 29, 2023
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I purchased a 30 piece clip art set. All the strokes are expanded. Yikes!

Is there a way to turn them into simple editable strokes?

This way I can resize them any way I want but adjust the strokes so all art looks consistent.

MANY tthanks in advance!

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Correct answer Monika Gause

You could use Offset path to adjust line thickness.

 

Clipart companies usually demand that all open paths are outlined and their artists often also outline close paths.

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Jacob Bugge
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Community Expert
January 29, 2023

Adam,

 

I believe the fact and emphasis of such clipart being vector artwork will lure many into believing that it is fully and easily editable/flexible, ready to be used directly in connexion with new artwork, rather than just as a fixed appearance that can be scaled.

 

A double delivery, one with editable and one with outlined strokes might make more merry.

 

Ton Frederiks
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Community Expert
January 29, 2023

Yes, a double delivery, togheter with some education should make everybody happy.

Known Participant
January 29, 2023

I like the way you think!!!!

Community Expert
January 29, 2023

Most vendors selling clip art require any line stroke effects (among other types of effects) to be expanded into raw paths. That's because the artwork may be imported into any number of graphics applications. Not all will treat live line strokes in the same manner. Some settings built into those line strokes could be disregarded. That's a big danger.

One of the very first things anyone does when placing a piece of clip art into a layout is they re-size it. Line strokes in various pieces of artwork are very often not set to scale automatically when the art is re-sized bigger or smaller. The strokes remain at the same size. That forces the user to go back and manually expand the line strokes or change the stroke settings. If the artwork is complex that can lead to a big waste of time. Such things can get really infuriating fast.

So, yeah, I'm firmly on the side of the clip art vendors requiring line strokes to be expanded into raw, scaleable paths.

Jacob Bugge
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Community Expert
January 29, 2023

Adam,

 

The wish to unOutline Stroke has led to many threads; suggestions have included simple use of negative offset to mimic stroked paths (which shorthens open paths) and blends (leading to stroked paths), and also the Stroker action by Kurt.

 

As it appears, the often suggested roundabout way of using negative offset to get an apparent stroke weight has two fundamental limitations/flaws:

 

1) You can only work indirectly, unintuitively, and somewhat inaccurately, by trying to choose a negative offset of (approximately) half the difference between the width of the outlined path and the desired stroke weight, often on slanting and/or curved lines; in other ways working backwards;

 

2) The fundamental shape of every single open path will be changed, shortened by the negative offset in both ends, and all combinations involving one or more ends of such paths will be changed, such as abutments, small gaps, projection of one past another.

 

Monika Gause
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Monika GauseCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
January 29, 2023

You could use Offset path to adjust line thickness.

 

Clipart companies usually demand that all open paths are outlined and their artists often also outline close paths.

Known Participant
January 29, 2023

Thanks so much for your reply. I've wondered why so much clip art has the outlined paths. I've noticed at Vecteezy some art has an EDITABLE STROKE icon on it. (Yay!) I know if I was selling clip art I would do that - and IMO I'd be SO popular! Yes, I have used outline stroke but this has some problems on complex art, like mandalas. Easy to thincken black lines - but no way to make them thinner. And that's what you need to do if you enlarge the art but don't want fat strokes that don't match the art you didn't enlarge. Yes, you can outline the stroke with white but that often creates weird gaps. I also tried rasterizing, then image tracebut that did not work. Again, many thanks for your response.

Ton Frederiks
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 29, 2023

There is a setting in Illustrator in the Preferences > General "Scale Strokes & Effects". Depending on whether it's turned on or off, stroke width will either scale proportionally with the object or it won't


That would be a very simple message to add to the stock file to avoid confusion.

Mylenium
Legend
January 29, 2023

Nope.

 

Mylenium